MT: Gianforte vs Quist

[BigHornRam]

Unfortunately Quist is doing everything he can to lose this. He hired an out of state polling service to make telephone calls to gather information. My fellow math teacher hung up on them when they asked if she was a Montanian. I will never vote for Gianforte, but how far out of touch can the Montana Dems be for nominating this guy?

Rut row!

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/327138-cnns-lemon-calls-susan-rice-story-a-diversion

"Turn out the lights, the parties over."

 

[RobG]

Attention Bozeman people - tonight (Apr 4th) at 5:30 Rob Quist will be having a public lands rally at the Gallatin County Regional Park (Dinosaur Park area), NW corner of Oak and Davis.

After the event we will go to the excavation area and look for evidence of arks and/or humans buried amongst the dinosaur remains.

See you there and remember to make science real again by voting for Quist

rg

 

[u1299]

Attention Bozeman people - tonight (Apr 4th) at 5:30 Rob Quist will be having a public lands rally at the Gallatin County Regional Park (Dinosaur Park area), NW corner of Oak and Davis.

After the event we will go to the excavation area and look for evidence of arks and/or humans buried amongst the dinosaur remains.

See you there and remember to make science real again by voting for Quist

rg

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I will honor your request Rob but you didn't have to ask, put me in the Quist column.

 

[RobG]

At the rally.

 

[BigHornRam]

At the rally.

Monster crowd! End the dinosaur fetish Rob. This is were the votes are for your party.

http://www.npr.org/2016/10/24/499224776/elizabeth-warren-rallies-nasty-women-to-vote-for-clinton

"Turn out the lights...........

 

[RobG]

Do you have anything to add about the candidates BHR? Do you seriously think Gianforte is the better candidate?

There were 2-300 people at the rally and Quist's campaign has more energy than the Tester campaign, which I also followed closely.






The republicans have problems right now. Trump is to democrats what Obama was to guns. People are realizing Trump is a lunatic with policies that will hurt them personally while at the same time enriching Wall Street. Trump wants to devastate the Forest Service, which will have huge impacts in Montana. People are pissed: the democratic central committee meeting set a new record for attendance.

Montanans never did warm up to Gianforte, who is now claiming support Trump and the polices which will hurt Montana. GG claims he came here and bootstrapped himself to form Right Now, but he moved here from New Jersey after selling a company for $10 million dollars. Classic millionaire moving in from elsewhere and telling us how it needs to be done. Montanans despise folks like him, especially when they want to litigate to take our fishing access away. He had to fund most of his his own campaign because Montanans can't stand him. Even Ed Berry thinks GG is a liability (and for Governor too). GG claims he is going to drain the swamp, but Montanans think his kind is the swamp.

Speaking of his kind, re-read the GF Tribune article about the creationist museum GG donated over a quarter million dollars to so they can deny evolution, instead saying God put "kinds" of animals. They claim T-rex was a vegetarian because there was only peace in the world in the beginning.

And of course there is his health care plan, which is to repeal and replace Obamacare, magically lowering premiums and giving more access. Montanans have been hearing that for 8 years and the Republicans made idiots out of themselves when they finally had to produce. And now GG thinks he can dupe Montanans with vague promises? The Rs proposed keeping Obamacare, but giving the wealthy tax cuts and government subsidies while at the same time increasing the premiums of the people barely scraping by. That's sick, and what is sicker is that the reps couldn't get majority support because it wasn't sick enough for the extremists in the party. Montanans know GG is with the extremist. This race is not over by any means.

So, again, do you think GG is the better candidate?

 

[katqanna]

Monster crowd! ... This is were the votes are for your party..."Turn out the lights...........

This will be the monster rally, to turn the education/science lights back on, ohhhh, like when they called a whole era that had been in the Dark Ages the f*cking Age of Enlightenment or the Age of Reason, with scientific revolution, whose rallying cry was, "Sapere aude" - Dare to Know.

So for the young earth believers, if you dare to know ... Manetho [Manethos and Manethon] is called the Father of Egyptian History, though only fragments of his writing survive. He was a Greco-Egyptian priest born at Sebennytos in the Nile Delta, and lived during the reign of Ptolemy I and Ptolemy II, approximately 300 BCE and a contemporary of Berosus (Chaldean chronologist). He wrote the Egyptian history like a PR campaign to make it appear they were the oldest civilization.

Not to be out done, a number of other historians sought to make genealogies of their nations, from creation, until their time period. Each historian wrote to make their nation the predominant one, to supposedly lend credence to their claims. This is understandable since it takes place after the time of Alexander the Great. When he died, his vast kingdom was divided between his generals.

So a small contingent of Hebrew exiles from Chaldea (Babylonia) return to part of what is Yahuda territory (Judah for English speakers) and Ezra the Scribe, raised and influenced by the Chaldean system, which included numerology, begins his nationalistic compilation of what later becomes the Tanak (Old Testament), an acronym for the 3 groupings of Hebraic writings Thorah (Law), Nebiyiym (Prophets) and Kethubiym (Writings), which btw, the Hebrew Canon was not fixed until the 2nd century BCE, they were still editing and tweaking not only books, whole passages of books, but the canon as a whole.

Since the patriarchal Hebrew tradition valued patri genealogies, passed down in oral traditions, then in writings, the Jewish scribes had a wee bit of a problem joining in the fad to make their nation the oldest god sponsored civilization, because 'who begat who' was pretty much fixed, so they exaggerated how many years the oldest fathers actually lived by hundreds of years to fit their numerology and prophecies of the impending end, which didn't happen (numerous times actually). Unfortunately, as time proceeded, that created an embarrassing debacle for a chronological timeline when the world ending they prophesied didn't end and world wide record keeping expanded beyond a small group of rabbinical Jews. Rabbinical Judaism shot themselves in the foot on that one, especially as archaeology proved cultures existing prior to the Rabbinical timeline, even older Hebrew scrolls, Qumran for example, conflict with the current canon and text. This was all made worse by Christianity's adopting the Hebraic text. So the Jewish calendar, depending on whose adjustments and reckoning you use is roughly about 5777 years since creation.

And this absurdity, with all the paleontological evidence they simply can't ignore, they tie themselves up in pretzels trying reckon everything. This is what Gianforte believes and contributes to, and would more than likely try to legislate.

I could just as easily believe that in 46 years, this day today, the Vulcans will make First Contact with Zephram Cochrane in Bozeman, Montana.


At what point, do you turn the lights on and Dare To Know?


Thanks for the pics Rob.

 

[RobG]

I think this link will allow you to scroll 360 degrees to show the crowd.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155112459177356&set=gm.1473887595968684&type=3&theater

 

[Shotgun1]

This will be the monster rally, to turn the education/science lights back on, ohhhh, like when they called a whole era that had been in the Dark Ages the f*cking Age of Enlightenment or the Age of Reason, with scientific revolution, whose rallying cry was, "Sapere aude" - Dare to Know.

So for the young earth believers, if you dare to know ... Manetho [Manethos and Manethon] is called the Father of Egyptian History, though only fragments of his writing survive. He was a Greco-Egyptian priest born at Sebennytos in the Nile Delta, and lived during the reign of Ptolemy I and Ptolemy II, approximately 300 BCE and a contemporary of Berosus (Chaldean chronologist). He wrote the Egyptian history like a PR campaign to make it appear they were the oldest civilization.

Not to be out done, a number of other historians sought to make genealogies of their nations, from creation, until their time period. Each historian wrote to make their nation the predominant one, to supposedly lend credence to their claims. This is understandable since it takes place after the time of Alexander the Great. When he died, his vast kingdom was divided between his generals.

So a small contingent of Hebrew exiles from Chaldea (Babylonia) return to part of what is Yahuda territory (Judah for English speakers) and Ezra the Scribe, raised and influenced by the Chaldean system, which included numerology, begins his nationalistic compilation of what later becomes the Tanak (Old Testament), an acronym for the 3 groupings of Hebraic writings Thorah (Law), Nebiyiym (Prophets) and Kethubiym (Writings), which btw, the Hebrew Canon was not fixed until the 2nd century BCE, they were still editing and tweaking not only books, whole passages of books, but the canon as a whole.

Since the patriarchal Hebrew tradition valued patri genealogies, passed down in oral traditions, then in writings, the Jewish scribes had a wee bit of a problem joining in the fad to make their nation the oldest god sponsored civilization, because 'who begat who' was pretty much fixed, so they exaggerated how many years the oldest fathers actually lived by hundreds of years to fit their numerology and prophecies of the impending end, which didn't happen (numerous times actually). Unfortunately, as time proceeded, that created an embarrassing debacle for a chronological timeline when the world ending they prophesied didn't end and world wide record keeping expanded beyond a small group of rabbinical Jews. Rabbinical Judaism shot themselves in the foot on that one, especially as archaeology proved cultures existing prior to the Rabbinical timeline, even older Hebrew scrolls, Qumran for example, conflict with the current canon and text. This was all made worse by Christianity's adopting the Hebraic text. So the Jewish calendar, depending on whose adjustments and reckoning you use is roughly about 5777 years since creation.

And this absurdity, with all the paleontological evidence they simply can't ignore, they tie themselves up in pretzels trying reckon everything. This is what Gianforte believes and contributes to, and would more than likely try to legislate.

I could just as easily believe that in 46 years, this day today, the Vulcans will make First Contact with Zephram Cochrane in Bozeman, Montana.


At what point, do you turn the lights on and Dare To Know?


Thanks for the pics Rob.

Interesting

 

[Shotgun1]

Do you have anything to add about the candidates BHR? Do you seriously think Gianforte is the better candidate?

There were 2-300 people at the rally and Quist's campaign has more energy than the Tester campaign, which I also followed closely.

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The republicans have problems right now. Trump is to democrats what Obama was to guns. People are realizing Trump is a lunatic with policies that will hurt them personally while at the same time enriching Wall Street. Trump wants to devastate the Forest Service, which will have huge impacts in Montana. People are pissed: the democratic central committee meeting set a new record for attendance.

Montanans never did warm up to Gianforte, who is now claiming support Trump and the polices which will hurt Montana. GG claims he came here and bootstrapped himself to form Right Now, but he moved here from New Jersey after selling a company for $10 million dollars. Classic millionaire moving in from elsewhere and telling us how it needs to be done. Montanans despise folks like him, especially when they want to litigate to take our fishing access away. He had to fund most of his his own campaign because Montanans can't stand him. Even Ed Berry thinks GG is a liability (and for Governor too). GG claims he is going to drain the swamp, but Montanans think his kind is the swamp.

Speaking of his kind, re-read the GF Tribune article about the creationist museum GG donated over a quarter million dollars to so they can deny evolution, instead saying God put "kinds" of animals. They claim T-rex was a vegetarian because there was only peace in the world in the beginning.

And of course there is his health care plan, which is to repeal and replace Obamacare, magically lowering premiums and giving more access. Montanans have been hearing that for 8 years and the Republicans made idiots out of themselves when they finally had to produce. And now GG thinks he can dupe Montanans with vague promises? The Rs proposed keeping Obamacare, but giving the wealthy tax cuts and government subsidies while at the same time increasing the premiums of the people barely scraping by. That's sick, and what is sicker is that the reps couldn't get majority support because it wasn't sick enough for the extremists in the party. Montanans know GG is with the extremist. This race is not over by any means.

So, again, do you think GG is the better candidate?

I am with you, GG sucks

 

[BigHornRam]

This will be the monster rally, to turn the education/science lights back on, ohhhh, like when they called a whole era that had been in the Dark Ages the f*cking Age of Enlightenment or the Age of Reason, with scientific revolution, whose rallying cry was, "Sapere aude" - Dare to Know.

So for the young earth believers, if you dare to know ... Manetho [Manethos and Manethon] is called the Father of Egyptian History, though only fragments of his writing survive. He was a Greco-Egyptian priest born at Sebennytos in the Nile Delta, and lived during the reign of Ptolemy I and Ptolemy II, approximately 300 BCE and a contemporary of Berosus (Chaldean chronologist). He wrote the Egyptian history like a PR campaign to make it appear they were the oldest civilization.

Not to be out done, a number of other historians sought to make genealogies of their nations, from creation, until their time period. Each historian wrote to make their nation the predominant one, to supposedly lend credence to their claims. This is understandable since it takes place after the time of Alexander the Great. When he died, his vast kingdom was divided between his generals.

So a small contingent of Hebrew exiles from Chaldea (Babylonia) return to part of what is Yahuda territory (Judah for English speakers) and Ezra the Scribe, raised and influenced by the Chaldean system, which included numerology, begins his nationalistic compilation of what later becomes the Tanak (Old Testament), an acronym for the 3 groupings of Hebraic writings Thorah (Law), Nebiyiym (Prophets) and Kethubiym (Writings), which btw, the Hebrew Canon was not fixed until the 2nd century BCE, they were still editing and tweaking not only books, whole passages of books, but the canon as a whole.

Since the patriarchal Hebrew tradition valued patri genealogies, passed down in oral traditions, then in writings, the Jewish scribes had a wee bit of a problem joining in the fad to make their nation the oldest god sponsored civilization, because 'who begat who' was pretty much fixed, so they exaggerated how many years the oldest fathers actually lived by hundreds of years to fit their numerology and prophecies of the impending end, which didn't happen (numerous times actually). Unfortunately, as time proceeded, that created an embarrassing debacle for a chronological timeline when the world ending they prophesied didn't end and world wide record keeping expanded beyond a small group of rabbinical Jews. Rabbinical Judaism shot themselves in the foot on that one, especially as archaeology proved cultures existing prior to the Rabbinical timeline, even older Hebrew scrolls, Qumran for example, conflict with the current canon and text. This was all made worse by Christianity's adopting the Hebraic text. So the Jewish calendar, depending on whose adjustments and reckoning you use is roughly about 5777 years since creation.

And this absurdity, with all the paleontological evidence they simply can't ignore, they tie themselves up in pretzels trying reckon everything. This is what Gianforte believes and contributes to, and would more than likely try to legislate.

I could just as easily believe that in 46 years, this day today, the Vulcans will make First Contact with Zephram Cochrane in Bozeman, Montana.


At what point, do you turn the lights on and Dare To Know?


Thanks for the pics Rob.

Winning strategy there Kat and Rob. Keep it up.


"At what point, do you turn the lights on and Dare To Know?"

About the same time you guy's recognize socialism doesn't work.

 

[RobG]

Ha Ha:
Big Sky Country Democrats are running a legendary folk singer with a populist flair against a cartoon plutocrat.

 

[Sytes]

I think this link will allow you to scroll 360 degrees to show the crowd.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155112459177356&set=gm.1473887595968684&type=3&theater

Thanks for the link and I like your sign, Rob.
Looks like a fair turnout. The one guy to Quist's right, (our view left) - he the super secret Quist squirrel? He the guardian of our MT folk singer?

Here is his first commercial. Really, REALLY, REALLY not a single bit interested in Gianforte "representing" our interest. And a few notches down from Gianforte is the D's pick, Quist. Thus, Quist is whom my vote goes towards. I really enjoy his music though his understanding of the 2nd Amendment and illegal criminal aliens come before American Citizens, Craptuary cities is flat out - out of touch with reality! It is as if he has not stopped puffing on the magic dragon... Yet, I digress, he is the Democrat's string puppet and while I am not near a fan of the D's and further distaste of the D's incessant whimpering and wallowing... Simply refusing to accept their failure to adequately represent their constituents properly, Quist is still my vote.

This entire rant is to show how much I detest Gianforte. As an independent that appreciates the conservative side of politics... Quist gets my vote. YUCK! This is like eating something pretty moldy and spitting just can not get the taste out!


/Rant over for now...

Glad he will do what he is able to keep our land in public hands.

[video=youtube_share;9c--EsRoiGs]https://youtu.be/9c--EsRoiGs[/video]

 

[RobG]

Sytes - He still seems to be learning on some issues. At least he hasn't forgotten which department he is going to eliminate, nor will we get a Dean Scream. At his rallies I've been able to ask him questions and give him my point of view. He is good with platitudes, but he needs to know when he is out of touch with his likely voters.

 

[katqanna]

BHR, yeah, I like public roads, not being subject to private toll booths on every road. I like our shared public lands.
I like that all children have at least some rudimentary access to a basic education (I know that not all things are exactly equal).
I like that we have a shared military, not just for those that can afford their own private army.
In the same vein I like our shared police and fire departments, though I haven't specifically ever had a need, I would hate to think what things would be like if only those that could afford a private police or fire dept. had them.
I do like our public library system, kind of an extension of the education system, especially the community involvement.
I also appreciate our shared court systems, again, would not like that at all if it was privatized.
And I truly love our postal service (big mail person, always purchasing the giant mailboxes when I move somewhere).

I also appreciate aspects of private enterprise. But, if my appreciation and support for such programs makes me a socialist in your myopic and filtered eyes, you are more than welcome to that limited world view, but I will never apologize for thinking that community, whether my local city, or the larger aspects of state and country, are better for helping the whole, not just the elite, with these services.

 

[Oneye]

BHR, as a Utahn I don't have a real dog in this fight. I can promise you, if you value public lands you don't want to throw another fox i the hen house. Neither Quist nor Gianforte are great, but Gianforte will be in a position to do more damage to your concerns than Quist. This is a good chance to send a message on public lands, and I hope Montana sends it. If you don't like the guy, he is only there to finish Zinkes term, and vote him out then. Give public lands a chance.

 

[BigHornRam]

BHR, as a Utahn I don't have a real dog in this fight. I can promise you, if you value public lands you don't want to throw another fox i the hen house. Neither Quist nor Gianforte are great, but Gianforte will be in a position to do more damage to your concerns than Quist. This is a good chance to send a message on public lands, and I hope Montana sends it. If you don't like the guy, he is only there to finish Zinkes term, and vote him out then. Give public lands a chance.

There is a zero percent chance I will vote for Bernie Sanders in a cowboy hat. If the Democrats want my vote, they need to nominate a better candidate.

 

[Oneye]

There is a zero percent chance I will vote for Bernie Sanders in a cowboy hat. If the Democrats want my vote, they need to nominate a better candidate.

If you can't vote for that, can you really vote to sale public lands? Or for what Gianforte stands for? I get it's tough to have two shitty candidates and go from there. Don't vote for either of them if you can't, but we can't keep voting FOR the sale of public lands and expect the republican parties tune to change. The difference here between the 2 is , Bernie Sander policies don't have the votes to go anywhere the land grabbers do. If they are both evils, let's not vote for either evil. I agree neither are great candidates but it's time to stop just going along to get along while screwing ourselves royally in the long run.

 

[LopeHunter]

Spanish horses were welcomed as a steadier platform for hunting.

 

[BigHornRam]

If you can't vote for that, can you really vote to sale public lands? Or for what Gianforte stands for? I get it's tough to have two shitty candidates and go from there. Don't vote for either of them if you can't, but we can't keep voting FOR the sale of public lands and expect the republican parties tune to change. The difference here between the 2 is , Bernie Sander policies don't have the votes to go anywhere the land grabbers do. If they are both evils, let's not vote for either evil. I agree neither are great candidates but it's time to stop just going along to get along while screwing ourselves royally in the long run.

If you take a minute and read the entire thread, you will find where I said I was voting for Mark Wicks. You will also see where I said that the biggest threat to public lands is fiscal insolvency. Have you heard of unfunded liabilities? News flash, we are already royally screwed. You may want to educate yourself a little more on all of the issues before giving out your lame voting advice going forward.