Moving Trends for 2025

[Beignet]

Socities certainly go though ebbs and flows. The pendulum usually swings back towards center. Bottom line is I hope the major cities find their stride again in hopes it will alleviates some of the pressures elsewhere. I certainly understand your comment on studying economics and it sounds like you’ve developed your own set of opinions from a base knowledge of reading and trying to understand many perspectives much like myself. We can agree to disagree on some points.

Agreed. I'd admit to having developed my own biases, but remain dubious of holding convictions on anything outside of the hard sciences. There's just too many ifs ands or buts in the social sciences to be able to say "this is the absolute truth."

 

[brymoore]

Midwest looks like the frugal choice.

 

[Forkyfinder]

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Midwest looks like the frugal choice.

@Treeshark my 78k elk tag

 

[Nick87]

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Midwest looks like the frugal choice.

I call bullshit on that map. Respectively.

 

[Treeshark]

I call bullshit on that map. Respectively.

Same here. Ain’t no way Wisconsin should be $26k more than Illinois. If anything, the inverse is probably more accurate.

Here is another interesting one… I had no idea Montana was so affordable, seems that all we ever here on HT is how much of a financial sacrifice it is to live there

 

[SAJ-99]

I call bullshit on that map. Respectively.

Nick's coming in hot with a bold statement! LOL.

Lot of overlap in these maps. Not enough for me to call bullshit. We can pick apart the methodology but math and stats are not HT strengths.

 

[Nick87]

Same here. Ain’t no way Wisconsin should be $26k more than Illinois. If anything, the inverse is probably more accurate.

Here is another interesting one… I had no idea Montana was so affordable, seems that all we ever here on HT is how much of a financial sacrifice it is to live there

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Agreed. When you look at home prices it might look that way without d igging any further. Figure in property taxes and its a whole other story. Then again southern il is a pretty cheap place to buy a home if you can find a job. Still by the time you figure in taxes and other living expenses I find it hard to believe. Look at Iowa compared to Illinois, not buying that one either.

 

[Forkyfinder]

Agreed. When you look at home prices it might look that way without d igging any further. Figure in property taxes and its a whole other story.

Now do home insurance

 

[Gulf of America]

Agreed. When you look at home prices it might look that way without d igging any further. Figure in property taxes and its a whole other story. Then again southern il is a pretty cheap place to buy a home if you can find a job. Still by the time you figure in taxes and other living expenses I find it hard to believe. Look at Iowa compared to Illinois, not buying that one either.

My step-sister bought a home twice the size of mine on an acre in Roscoe for well under what an undeveloped acre goes for around here. Her property taxes are more than the monthly principle + interest, but she's still paying half what I am each month. It was a fun/sad walk through the neighborhood looking up the sale signs on Zillow and seeing that a trailer on your own lot here could buy a castle there.

 

[Forkyfinder]

My step-sister bought a home twice the size of mine on an acre in Roscoe for well under what an undeveloped acre goes for around here. Her property taxes are more than the monthly principle + interest, but she's still paying half what I am each month. It was a fun/sad walk through the neighborhood looking up the sale signs on Zillow and seeing that a trailer on your own lot here could buy a castle there.

Now do wages.

 

[Nick87]

Now do wages.

Probably depends on the occupation.

 

[Nick87]

My step-sister bought a home twice the size of mine on an acre in Roscoe for well under what an undeveloped acre goes for around here. Her property taxes are more than the monthly principle + interest, but she's still paying half what I am each month. It was a fun/sad walk through the neighborhood looking up the sale signs on Zillow and seeing that a trailer on your own lot here could buy a castle there.

Roscoe isn’t far at all from me.

 

[Nick87]

Nick's coming in hot with a bold statement! LOL.

Lot of overlap in these maps. Not enough for me to call bullshit. We can pick apart the methodology but math and stats are not HT strengths.

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A lot more goes into what income to buy a house than just the price of the house. Thats all I'm trying to say. Devil is in the details most all of these things I see don't take most of them into consideration. Maybe thats how I should have responded to @brymoore post.

 

[Forkyfinder]

Probably depends on the occupation.

Yeah - most jobs pay lower here. Not all. But certainly most.

 

[Exhausted]

It really, really matters where you live in the state for those maps to be close to accurate. Sounds obvious but should be said for future Googlers. Nashville, TN is a very different place, economically, than Cleveland, TN.

 

[Dave N]

Roscoe isn’t far at all from me.

Former home of Danica Patrick.

 

[Forkyfinder]

It really, really matters where you live in the state for those maps to be close to accurate. Sounds obvious but should be said for future Googlers. Nashville, TN is a very different place, economically, than Cleveland, TN.

True in every state...

 

[SAJ-99]

A lot more goes into what income to buy a house than just the price of the house. Thats all I'm trying to say. Devil is in the details most all of these things I see don't take most of them into consideration. Maybe thats how I should have responded to @brymoore post.

Agreed. I point that out in every housing discussion. the insurance and taxes are predictable, but those surprise costs are what bite people in the butt. Most of the analysis I see just incorporates ongoing maintenance cost of 3-5% of the value of the home. Seems reasonable but that can be a lot for the "average" person. And as others point out, Average really doesn't exist.

 

[Forkyfinder]

Agreed. I point that out in every housing discussion. the insurance and taxes are predictable, but those surprise costs are what bite people in the butt. Most of the analysis I see just incorporates ongoing maintenance cost of 3-5% of the value of the home. Seems reasonable but that can be a lot for the "average" person. And as others point out, Average really doesn't exist.

The average person doesnt exist - but the median one might

 

[Exhausted]

True in every state...

Agreed. Exactly my point. Depending on where one is considering living in a particular state, those maps may be totally useless.