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For wintering herds we rarely find big bulls with the large cow herds. Usually smaller bulls , maybe a mature one or two, but usually herds of hundreds of cows and spikes. Once the big boys get their work done they leave the cows for winter, at least in the area we hunt cows.
You can get rut activity well into Oct and we've heard bugles into Nov, maybe the leftover rut, after that the big bulls go their own way so to speak.