RidgeRunner76
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If the world knew how many projects started this way. We humans have a way of over complicating things.
Clarity to the Chaos.
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Clarity to the Chaos.
Redmt
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I've built 3 houses designed on napkins. Foundation rough layout done with rocks painted with pink marking paint.
RidgeRunner76
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Right. When working on new projects I'd sketch out the overall designs with dimensions. It was my reference material for doing the CAD drawings.
You can put all dimensions and pertinent info into a list, however I found it easier to also have that visual of the end product.
Oh yes, this is what I do for a living…. In 25 years I have worked from plans 2 times.
How do you get around permitting, inspections and financing issues without a proper set of plans? We are behind in my area, but no way you get away with it even here. mtmuley
Scary. Where? mtmuley
Redmt
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Most places up here are built without permits or financing. One of the houses the owner decided to try and get a loan a few years later but no go without permits. He went to the county and applied for an "as built" permit. The building department wanted whatever he had for the design. He submitted the napkins. He paid the fines and fees and it was approved. All the county wants is the money. People building out of pocket pretty much build what they want. Besides that,,,,we are remote enough that the county prefers to ignore us.
I'm glad that can't happen around me. mtmuley
Redmt
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I can give you story after story why people don't get permits. One owner who happened to be a contractor built with permits. County wouldn't approve a septic system, requiring him to connect to sewer system over 40 miles away. They demanded an elaborate drainage system so that rain water from his roof didn't impact his neighbors. The house was in the middle of 400 acres. They demanded a massive fire suppression system for a hay barn requiring a 3 phase pump and 100,000 gallon water reserve. There's no 3 phase power for 30 miles. They require a separate electric system to charge EV's. They didn't want to approve propane heat or appliances even though he had documented proof that the power was out over 500 hours in the last year. The county is totally out of touch with rural areas.
We obviously aren't building the same type of homes if you don't work off of a plan set. mtmuley
Probably not, I do those pole barn houses for new construction. I remodel 100 year old homesteads and cabins.
The remodel part sounds interesting. We do some, but on a very large scale. mtmuley
I’m sure I’m smaller than you. I have 3-5 employees at a time. Do mostly custom work. It’s not for everyone. But it’s a good living. Plus working for big ranchers and landowners. I have procured hunting access on tens of thousands of acres throughout the center of the state.
I don't own the company. Sometimes I get tired of the huge custom home gig. But, it's better than tract stuff. We did a big job on a huge ranch out of Wheatland a few years ago. Got hunting permission. Drawing tags is an issue. mtmuley
I hear ya. I’m a Wyo resident and still can’t draw a tag in areas where I have permission. Good thing bears are general. I found a great spot last fall.
RidgeRunner76
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Not homes, but people would be extremely surprised at the requirements needed to fulfill AISC, AWS AS9100, NFPA and whatever local building codes in places. That's just a handful.
In some ways, I admire these guys for just being able get it done.
I've seen a lot of scary things done by people just getting it done. I agree some requirements can be on the ridiculous side. But I think some kind of regulation in building practices is necessary. mtmuley
RidgeRunner76
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No I as well and that's the reasons those Regulations are in place. Especially OSHA.
If you've never seen the carnage not following these things can bring, you wouldn't understand. That's a generic statement btw.
That's why I dedicate myself to learning and Especially teaching why these matter. Extremely high stress
