Just watched a landlocked public elk hunt on You tube.

Kevin W

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Just watched a land locked public elk hunt on You Tube (reminded me of the time Randy did this) but on this hunt the owner of the ranch that surrounds the public piece tried to steal one of the hunters elk head / rack. Crazy stuff!!!

 
There was an article about it in the fall after it happened but I just watched that this morning too. Was a bit frustrating hearing what was done and where things are at now. When I imagine a scenario where a public land hunter steals a head from one of the guides’ clients I hope they would be treated with the same grace (no hunter harassment and just theft under $1k).

I also imagine myself in that situation and being in Montana there is rarely a time I don’t have at least one unfilled tag so would be curious if hunter harassment could be brought with a deer/turkey/bear tag when retrieving an elk skull, presuming I was carrying my rifle.
 
i would like to know if any montana court has presided over a hunter harrassmemt case, and the outcome,

for that matter has a warden in montana ever cited someone....
 
the warden makes the decision the hunters were no longer hunting, so no harrassment,

hmmm, would the guys have to stop at a game check station, when the drive home, there not hunters, any know the warden personally
 
i would like to know if any montana court has presided over a hunter harrassmemt case, and the outcome,

for that matter has a warden in montana ever cited someone....
I've asked this very question several times here and no one has claimed to have heard of one, which is ridiculous. In this case, they have the guy red handed on video and still no charges.
 
I've asked this very question several times here and no one has claimed to have heard of one, which is ridiculous. In this case, they have the guy red handed on video and still no charges.
He did not interfere with their hunt, just stole the rack after the hunt hence no harassment charges.
Value of the rack should correspond with what WG&F levies for fines against poaching, imo.
He brought more attention to this parcel and others with his actions so hoping more folks take advantage and find ways to legally access this parcel and hunt it.
 
He did not interfere with their hunt, just stole the rack after the hunt hence no harassment charges.
Value of the rack should correspond with what WG&F levies for fines against poaching, imo.
He brought more attention to this parcel and others with his actions so hoping more folks take advantage and find ways to legally access this parcel and hunt it.

Was debate on the hunter harassment charge on another western hunting forum. From what I gathered, interfering with someone's ability to possess their legally taken game should qualify. But also, he basically admitted he was trying to discourage people from legally hunting there which also may qualify?


(a) No person shall with the intent to prevent or hinder the lawful taking of any wildlife: (i) Interfere with the lawful taking of or the process of lawfully taking any wildlife;

(h) As used in subsection (a) of this section, “process of lawfully taking” means travel, camping and other acts preparatory to taking wildlife if occurring on lands or water upon which the affected person may legally take the wildlife.

"Wyoming Statutes Title 23. Game and Fish § 23-1-102. General definitions - (vii) “Take” means hunt, pursue, catch, capture, shoot, fish, seine, trap, kill, or possess, or attempt to hunt, pursue, catch, capture, shoot, fish, seine, trap, kill, or possess;"
 
Not trying to hijack a thread here…..
As a native “Easterner” or whatever…..
I’ve noticed since I now live what we’ll call west of the Mississippi River, land issues seem to abound. And ownership, dominion, seems to be a tough pill for people to swallow. If it’s yours it’s yours, if it ain’t it ain’t…. What am I missing here?

Awaiting the fire volley.
 
Not trying to hijack a thread here…..
As a native “Easterner” or whatever…..
I’ve noticed since I now live what we’ll call west of the Mississippi River, land issues seem to abound. And ownership, dominion, seems to be a tough pill for people to swallow. If it’s yours it’s yours, if it ain’t it ain’t…. What am I missing here?

Awaiting the fire volley.

The only anecdote I can come up with is this: if there’s very very little public land and we DONT want the hunting heritage to die with that generation--you must allow some form of access to help folks find success and procure food. In the West, where animal numbers and public land are much more robust, it can be a very controversial topic and it’s due, in my opinion, to the fact that around here if you want to hunt, you don’t need your neighbors place or Billy bobs farm down the road… you just gotta get after it.

Also, when you feel something is “yours” it’s much easier to share it. When something “belongs to everyone” but they’re just “all on your side”, it’s a different sounding question entirely…

This is MY OPINION after having lived in Texas, Oklahoma, California, Missouri, and Montana.
 

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