Same. It is a good cartridge and just that, nothing to hold a grudge over based on how it was marketed. For me, it has been my favorite cartridge when used on antelope, allowing me to take a couple out to my maximum range, and helping my buddy to take his 1st ever big game aninal. I would have full confidence with 6.5CM on deer, black bear and responsible broadside shots on elk. Ammo availability and pricing is some of most favorable, and theres no reason to shun it any longer just cause its popular.