Does anyone feel like outdoor recreation declining back to post-COVID level?

[cgasner1]

I think are look at total apps will paint picture of if anything has changed

Life happens sometimes to so far this spring we had the snow storm I had to work all weekend last weekend we had training all weekend this weekend single dad next weekend wife’s birthday and Mother’s Day. Adios spring

 

[WesternCO68]

I spend almost every day in the summer out on the local national forest. Last summer was definitely less crowded than the summer before that. I'm all for helping the local economy, but the increased usage has had a visible impact on the forest. Dispersed campsites are trashed. I'm glad to see fewer crowds, and I hope the trend continues.

 

[Nick87]

Life happens sometimes to so far this spring we had the snow storm I had to work all weekend last weekend we had training all weekend this weekend single dad next weekend wife’s birthday and Mother’s Day. Adios spring

That's the norm for the foreseeable future.

 

[cgasner1]

That's the norm for the foreseeable future.

Our bear quotas fill before I even get a chance to think about trying to go it’s pretty neat

 

[Rogerdoger]

The hard to reach areas are a less busy. Definitely less Canadians in town since Trump pissed them off.

 

[Sask hunter]

Seems like more people are bear baiting this year then years passed. I’m chalking it up to cheaper gas

 

[Beignet]

My understanding is that mountain bike, motorcycle, atv, and utv manufacturers have seen massive sales declines since seeing a big Covid boom

Arctic cat went out of business/was bought out and KTM is in all sorts of financial problems

That’s great news.

 

[Sixmile]

Lots of out of state traffic heading to the park on the north side. The trail heads seem a little less busy to me.

 

[Nick87]

That’s great news.

Probably unless your employed by them.

 

[Bigjay73]

Probably unless your employed by them.

Bittersweet news

 

[Bigjay73]

I feel like ice fishing was as crowded as ever, turkey hunting hasn't been as bad as the last couple of years it seems. Hunting and fishing take a lot of effort, I could see people tiring of it after a few seasons if it's not truly their thing.

 

[shrapnel]

Covid put more people in the woods than Kuiu and Sitka combined.

Our local RV dealerships were setting records for sales every month. People weren’t traveling and leaving the country, they were camping and buying recreational vehicles at record levels.

Covid did make a lot of people look closer to home to recreate…

 

[Nick87]

I could see people tiring of it after a few seasons if it's not truly their thing.

You'd think so. But I think when happens they figure they just are spending enough and take it to the next level or there's 100 more waiting to take there place. Whatever happened to people thinking you were nuts for getting up at 4 am on your day off. I miss those lazy f#ckers.

 

[jimh406]

Covid did make a lot of people look closer to home to recreate…

I don't know where you are from, but we had lots of people coming to Montana/Idaho/Wyoming from other states that were closed.

Some even bought second homes to "work" from home since they didn't have to go to work in the closed states.

 

[shrapnel]

I don't know where you are from, but we had lots of people coming to Montana/Idaho/Wyoming from other states that were closed.

Some even bought second homes to "work" from home since they didn't have to go to work in the closed states.

Montana. People weren’t traveling internationally, making it closer to home to visit places in America…

 

[Beignet]

Probably unless your employed by them.

I am sure that increased interest rates to slow down a red-hot, inflationary economy caused by a giant influx of covid stimulus and cheap credit played a role in companies like Arctic Cat deciding to slow production to meet decreased demand. But, continuing to use Arctic Cat as an example shows bigger picture issues at play. Arctic Cat is owned by Textron, and is a drop in the bucket to their overall operations.

According to recent quarterly SEC filings, layoffs at Textron owned businesses were tied more closely to a cancelled Army Future Attack Reconnaissance Aircraft contract. Textron also owns Bell, who manufactures helicopters. The Army realized that close-in air combat is being conducted by drone nowaday and didn't need high priced fancy helicopters. All in about $2b had been spent on the contract with another $5b over 5 years requested prior to cancellation.

Does it change viewpoints and sympathies if we beleive that layoffs at Arctic Cat were the convoluted product of decreasing wasteful government spending?

 

[Bambistew]

Its going to be interesting to see what happens this summer up here. I hope tourism is down. Its nearly doubled in the last 10 years and is unsustainable, IMO. Especially when the impacts are felt by locals and the money walks out the door via seasonal NR employees and businesses owners.

 

[Bigjay73]

Its going to be interesting to see what happens this summer up here. I hope tourism is down. Its nearly doubled in the last 10 years and is unsustainable, IMO. Especially when the impacts are felt by locals and the money walks out the door via seasonal NR employees and businesses owners.

Short term rentals are not good for locals. Look at what went down in Barcelona

 

[Irishman]

I went to Glacier National Park last week. To me it was crazy how many people were there. I parked in an overflow parking spot as the parking lots were full. This was on a Friday morning in April, when the main roads there are still closed. Used to be hardly anyone visited Glacier NP in April. I talked to people from Oregon, New Mexico, Portugal. The increase in tourism is here to stay - Covid played a part, finances played a part, but I think the internet also played a part.

 

[F250]

The hard to reach areas are a less busy. Definitely less Canadians in town since Trump pissed them off.

Not seeing any decline in the number of folks from Quebec. Highway traffic, shopping centers, boat launches, and Canadians opening their camps on Lake Champlain all seem normal. We had dinner at a popular restaurant in Quebec a few nights ago. Then ice cream at a crowded local vendor. Spoke with old friends and strangers alike. All normal… maybe no one up there had read the media hype.