Common sense would be to let them continue to negotiate with themselves.
It is not just the NRA (whom for the record I view as a train wreck). There are plenty of other organizations and politicians who push for lax/zero enforcement of current laws - especially in urban areas. If you think only one side or one organization is the problem then you choose to remain ignorant to the full nature of the problem.
Then you didn’t actually read my post - increased 2A freedoms proposed included nationwide carry, federal preemption of additional state restrictions, dramatic shrinking of NFA limitations.
I am confused, I thought the NRA was the old boogie man dispenser?
I just can’t see any of the proposed changes stopping what has happened.
And you can allow teachers to carry for $0.There have been numerous suggestions for an armed security guard being in school buildings. That made me curious enough to run some numbers.
There are a little more than 130k school buildings for k-12 in the US. If the pay and benefits for each guard is 75k the annual cost is 9.75 billion dollars each year. The total cost would have to also include the expense of ongoing training.
Since Columbine there has been 169 people killed in mass shootings in schools. There have been 14 mass shootings in schools since that time. A mass shooting defined as 4 or more deaths. Lets include Columbine and make it 15 shootings in call it 23 years. That is .65 mass killings in schools per year. The draw odds for each school building to have a mass killing each year is one in 200k, give or take. So, on average, each school building must wait for 200k years for their mass shooting.
So every guard in every building is in essence waiting for Godot.
If we assume that these armed guards entirely stop mass shootings, the cost is $15 billion dollars for every mass shooting prevented, if the risk is the same going forward.
Some might think that is preferable to other possible solutions. I don't
Education Statistics: Facts About American Schools
How many K-12 public schools, districts, and students are there? And how much are we, as a nation, spending on the education?www.edweek.org
This thread was not meant to be limited to the 1% problem of school security - frankly it is performative security theater that occupies 90% of the discussion on 1% of the problem.
I’m guessing the door thing was directed at me.
They all open from the inside as normal.
And most schools installed the keypads outside of each door so that first responders could enter a code to gain access….
So in essence….it’s no different than any of the commercial buildings you go into now with fire doors on all sides that open as normal from the inside….
Wow….that must be a completely stupid idea
Actually….on the gun thing…you could buy a Tommy gun through the sears a long time ago without a back ground check. Do a little more digging on your history before you start acting a
Weapons that took detachable high capacity magazines go back way further.
While I hadn’t intended to hijack a thread, I think the number one threat to the 2A today is bad legislation as a knee jerk reaction the shooting in Uvalde. While it may not have been your focus, I think it’s relevant.
Are you making this up as you go?
www.breitbart.com
Dig a little deeper in your google foo and you’ll find black powder machine guns, Gatling guns, mag fed guns and so on….
Interesting angle. So if a teacher wants to train and carry, they are now law enforcement? Curious how many school employees at past incidents wish they were armed.
I often hear "why can't they come to an agreement ?" ( referring to the men and women in Wash. D.C. ) and your thread is an example of "why"
