50 state firearms carry, no NFA bullchit for suppressors and barrel length, a push to enforce and prosecute existing laws, a funding mechanism for mental health upgrades, federal pre-emption to stop the CA/MA battle to be the most regulated states, and several others above.
I don't know - maybe if the kid and his mom had proper drug addiction and mental health treatment when he was ten we wouldn't know his name or care if he had a rifle to hunt with. I do know that doing nothing is not a permanent option.
How on Earth is this a generic trope? It’s taken directly from the 2nd Amendment. It’s not exaggerated, or over the top.
Given how the NRA (and pro-choice on their issue) have driven a no-surrender approach to all issues, I assume honest misunderstanding on this point by many and am happy to discuss if it helps folks better understand how all the rights under our constitution work.
I don’t believe you would even get a fraction of any of that.
Your response to my post is great and I do not disagree with your response. I also tried to note that I like the thought you put into your list and I think it makes good compromises for both sides of the argument and is definitely not the norm.
A profound misunderstanding of how the Constitution has been read since the founders - yes. Exaggerated or over the top - no
I will defer to those better versed in constitutional law than I am for details, but simply put, this is not how those words have been legally interpreted and laws applied over the years.
You are so busy being opposed you don't seem to be getting the premise of my post. I already said the partisans on both side will kill every idea in my post, but I wanted to share a set of proposals that I believe could fit together and make some progress. But I have no illusions that I would "get" any of this from the left, nor will the right "give" on any of it either. We no longer negotiate for a common good, we play a blood sport for team red/blue. It was just offered as a thought experiment that might rise above that for a few moments.
Have you read Heller? Did you read Scalia's specific commentary that restrictions like background checks were constitutionally permissible?
Yes, I have, and I was implying all of these as arguments against the validity of “shall not be infringed”. In my judgment those are not bad ideas.
Just so we're all on the same page. These 2 are agreeing with each other lol.
If you look at deaths, death by handguns related to the problems associated with inner-city (and rural) poverty outpace deaths by AR by several orders of magnitude. The same can be said about successful suicides with firearms (handguns and shotguns in particular). Investing in mental health services, drug rehab services and economic development will save many more lives than an AR ban. Other than the obvious fundraising angle ARs provide to both sides, they just aren't really relevant to 95+% of the fatalities.A thought…Your prototypical mass shooter is a young (18), angry white male with a proclivity for guns. Kind of hits home thinking about the hunting tribe.
My wish list item is banning civilian possession of semi automatics. Constitutional originalist, perhaps.
I’m convinced this country is incapable of progress on reasonable gun control until two generations of voters die off and a more educated, less dogmatic cohort takes over.
The easy money bet right now is plenty of meaningless #thoughtsandprayers and absolutely zero progress.
Sorry for my misunderstanding.
Ya, my bad. I need to go to bed.
Right, but who are the people most “common sense” to recognize the mental health issue? Who to address it? and who to effect meaningful change? teachers and administrators? law enforcement? doctors?. Funding? Maybe, maybe they aren’t educated, maybe they aren’t empowered, but when do they and the “system” become accountable for our children’s safety? Can I send my kindergartner to school tomorrow safely? Or is little Jonny who had a f’ed up childhood, no father in the home, and a history of red flags going to show up and gun her down? Free pass to they system. let’s pass some gun laws, maybe that will help?
