Ever since I first heard of the managed recoil ammo, I was blown away that anyone would buy a rifle that recoiled to much for them simply because they could buy ammo that would turn their 300 mag into a 308 but they still got to have a 300 mag! Of course there's all kinds of things around now to compensate recoil so anyone can shoot the gun. Kill's me when I read about the guy's that want a 5# mountain rifle in some heavy recoil mag cartridge. So he has his 5# rifle, 4-16x scope in case he get's a 500yds shot, 300 magnum of some kind to make that 500 yds shot he'll probably never get and then has to add on special recoil compensation part's so he can shoot the thing. In th end he has a $2000 rifle full of after market products so he can withstand the recoil and see well at 500 yds. Several thousand into it and in reality he has a 7 1/2# 308! Amazing!