Elky Welky
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CWD has a new name, and it made its way on to SNL this weekend. I don't really oppose making it sound scarier for the masses. Perhaps we'll start to see more people take it seriously?
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Just so I understand it, you're using "Anti-CWD" to describe people who don't think it exists at all? Because I'm pretty anti CWD too, but not like that.The "Anti-CWD" crowd is very upset about the use of "zombie deer". In their eyes it validates their idea that CWD is a conspiracy to end all deer hunting.
Sorry for being unclear. I'm lumping together a few demographics there.Just so I understand it, you're using "Anti-CWD" to describe people who don't think it exists at all? Because I'm pretty anti CWD too, but not like that.
Thanks! I fit none of those bills. I'm anti-CWD because it is a real, horrible disease that is killing deer and it needs to be stopped at all costs.Sorry for being unclear. I'm lumping together a few demographics there.
Different flavors of the "Anit-CWD" crowd...
CWD...
doesn't exist at all
Isn't a big deal
Is real but doesn't kill deer
Is real but isn't contagious
Is real but is being overblown
Is real but shouldn't impact my "rights"
Is a government conspricy
Is being used by insurance companies
Is a anti-hunting conspiracy to end hunting
“We’ve got lots of theories, we just don’t have any evidence”Thanks! I fit none of those bills. I'm anti-CWD because it is a real, horrible disease that is killing deer and it needs to be stopped at all costs.
The people you describe sound awfully familiar to another demographic that emerged sometime in 2020...
CWD maybe read the latest North American Whitetail and Deer and Deer Hunting article's that talk about it. Spoiler its not that as bad as what they claim and has not hurt one person from eating CDW meat EVER
You forgot the group I’m in which is the group that thinks Cwd is bad but the proposed solutions are equally as bad and fairly unproven. That’s how I see it from under the brim of my tinfoil capSorry for being unclear. I'm lumping together a few demographics there.
Different flavors of the "Anti-CWD" crowd...
CWD...
doesn't exist at all
Isn't a big deal
Is real but doesn't kill deer
Is real but isn't contagious
Is real but is being overblown
Is real but shouldn't impact my "rights"
Is a government conspiracy
Is being used by insurance companies
Is a anti-hunting conspiracy to end hunting
Oh? And what solutions are you referring too?You forgot the group I’m in which is the group that thinks Cwd is bad but the proposed solutions are equally as bad and fairly unproven. That’s how I see it from under the brim of my tinfoil cap
Contrary to their self-proclaimed “expertise”, I’d hardly call North American Whitetail or Deer and Deer hunting authorities on the matter. But I guess, and perhaps unsurprisingly, promoting Ted Nugent (et al) and his opinions on a variety of matters can damage ones credibility. I suppose if you and Ted share opinions on the issue, it’s not hard to see why you’d disagree on the matter. Confirmation bias and motivated reasoning are usually obviously apparent to even the most casual observer.CWD maybe read the latest North American Whitetail and Deer and Deer Hunting article's that talk about it. Spoiler its not that as bad as what they claim and has not hurt one person from eating CDW meat EVER
Kill them to save them management practices of course.Oh? And what solutions are you referring too?
I can certainly understand your concern or the general confusion on that topic. It’s not black and white, but it’s pretty well established. We know that localized culling can stomp out disease if it’s caught early (see NY). Recent research and analysis has also shown that once prevalence climbs above 1.8% that it becomes nearly impossible to eradicate disease, or get prevalence back to 0%. However, the use of culling or lowering populations can still serve a purpose. It can slow growth in prevalence. It can slow geographic spread and save clean, uninfected ground. Don’t get me wrong, “success” of culling isn’t always 100%. But there’s a lot of misunderstanding about how many deer are actually being culled, relative to the population.Kill them to save them management practices of course.
This research is a decade old, but it is essentially a compare and contrast of management strategies between Wisconsin and Illinois (primarily culling). These are areas that physically touch each other on the border of each state but have adopted different strategies, mostly due to hunter sentiment and political pressure.Kill them to save them management practices of course.
The trends they were able to show 10 years ago have continued.
Don’t those graphics prove my point? Illinois remains in mostly single digit prevalence rates (as your graphic confirms), while Wisconsin has significantly more geographic spread and multiple counties approaching or eclipsing 30% prevalence?I’m not so sure about that. Here is 2023 data for Illinois… not a good sign.
View attachment 320094Illinois CWD Info
Don’t those graphics prove my point?