Weight Loss Drugs

[Archer86]

If you read what you quoted, i said you'd lose weight.

You can lose weight eating only Hershey chocolate. Sure you're missing out on other important nutrients, but you'll lose weight. Can't disagree that you'll be healthier eating better foods!

Whats the reason most people want to lose weight? Its not to make there health worse.... just because you can lose weight eating 1500 calories of candy bars doesn't mean its good for you. The whole idea of trying to lose weight to improve your health

 

[rjthehunter]

Whats the reason most people want to lose weight? Its not to make there health worse.... just because you can lose weight eating 1500 calories of candy bars doesn't mean its good for you. The whole idea of trying to lose weight to improve your health

Hence why I agreed with you in the last sentence of my post. The point is that losing weight isn't rocket science. Consume less calories than you burn in a day.

 

[Nick87]

Hence why I agreed with you in the last sentence of my post. The point is that losing weight isn't rocket science. Consume less calories than you burn in a day.

Thats what works for me. But the type of calories definitely makes a difference for me too.

 

[DFS]

I’m

Are you overweight? Diabetic? Cholesterol issues? I wouldn't touch it either if I wasn't any of those things.

Protein and water intake a critical. Greens and Carbs are necessary too, but there are 2 options with high cholesterol... take cholesterol meds or change your diet and lose weight. Which drug do you think does a better job at aiding that particular diagnosis ?

i certainly wasn’t trying to offend anyone I dispense the drug every day. Just noting what I’ve seen with the body composition machine (muscle fat water). We don’t check A1c but people have had some incredible results including weight loss, some people turn into skeletons. We have had a few people that have gotten pancreatitis on the GLP-1s. My anecdotal experience which isn’t worth much. Back to shooting by bow so I can do better in the first shot challenge.

 

[Whiskey Freak]

Of the 10 or so people I know who are on it 10 or so look like they’re on drugs. Hollow look, appear malnourished, and skins hanging off them. The guy who looks the best is also taking HGH and testosterone shots to combat the muscle loss.

Not sure if it’s healthier being fat or healthier being skinny with no muscle and brittle bones?

 

[rjthehunter]

Of the 10 or so people I know who are on it 10 or so look like they’re on drugs. Hollow look, appear malnourished, and skins hanging off them. The guy who looks the best is also taking HGH and testosterone shots to combat the muscle loss.

Not sure if it’s healthier being fat or healthier being skinny with no muscle and brittle bones?

Shots to combat the shots!!!

 

[Chingon]

Of the 10 or so people I know who are on it 10 or so look like they’re on drugs. Hollow look, appear malnourished, and skins hanging off them. The guy who looks the best is also taking HGH and testosterone shots to combat the muscle loss.

Not sure if it’s healthier being fat or healthier being skinny with no muscle and brittle bones?

Then there's the 100+ people you have no idea are on it and just don't overdo it...

There *might* be long term health effects from GLP-1 meds, but there ARE DEFINITELY short and long term effects of obesity. Sleep quality, hormonal balance, joint health, heart health, etc. Another big effect is that people drink alcohol much less, and there's even some evidence that drug use is curbed. Pretty amazing stuff.

Is it a cheat code for life? Maybe. But you don't get any prizes for trying things the hard way and failing. My goal is to live as long as possible to see my grandchildren grow up - I'll work hard to be able to afford cheat codes

 

[Nicoli7153]

I've found that best way for me to loose weight is doing pushups ........... away from the dinner table!

 

[rjthehunter]

Is it a cheat code for life? Maybe. But you don't get any prizes for trying things the hard way and failing. My goal is to live as long as possible to see my grandchildren grow up - I'll work hard to be able to afford cheat codes

I have a couple of questions. I'm not coming after you, I just have some legitimate questions assuming you're on one of these weight loss meds.

1. What was your daily caloric intake prior to starting the meds?
2. What was your workout routine or what did you do to burn calories?
3. Have you continued said routines after starting the med?


My girlfriend works in the weight management department at a local hospital/clinic. The stories she tells me about the chart notes and visits with patients which are all basically the same. My doctor (Just a general doctor not specializing in weight management) shared her thoughts and opinions on them as well and she didn't have good things to say about them.

 

[Treeshark]

Cheat code= eat once a day and nothing sweet. You can get away with a lot by following just those two rules. Throwing in a 48-hour fast every few months doesn’t hurt.

 

[duckhunt]

Of the 10 or so people I know who are on it 10 or so look like they’re on drugs. Hollow look, appear malnourished, and skins hanging off them. The guy who looks the best is also taking HGH and testosterone shots to combat the muscle loss.

Not sure if it’s healthier being fat or healthier being skinny with no muscle and brittle bones?

I just ran into a gal I know here at work and noticed the same thing. She actually looks terrible.

 

[Chingon]

I have a couple of questions. I'm not coming after you, I just have some legitimate questions assuming you're on one of these weight loss meds.

1. What was your daily caloric intake prior to starting the meds?
2. What was your workout routine or what did you do to burn calories?
3. Have you continued said routines after starting the med?


My girlfriend works in the weight management department at a local hospital/clinic. The stories she tells me about the chart notes and visits with patients which are all basically the same. My doctor (Just a general doctor not specializing in weight management) shared her thoughts and opinions on them as well and she didn't have good things to say about them.

1. 1800 - 3000 calories. My "natural" weight is about 25lbs over ideal and I've struggled since childhood. I've done hardcore keto and got shredded, but that just wasn't sustainable. Really hard to be social with kids and navigate clean eating.

2. I'm a casual powerlifter, dabbled in running a bit but I just enjoy low impact weightlifting. Burning calories is not the answer - can't out run a bad diet (cuts are made in the kitchen). See #1.

3. Yeah. I'm currently on a cut (cycle off meds just to keep my metabolism from going full sloth mode) but still back on strength build mode as well. With TRT I'm able to build muscle while losing fat, something I did on strict keto as well.

Can I be fanatical and center my life around getting shredded "the right/natural way"? Yes. Will it be sustainable and not harder and harder as I age? No.

With GLP-1's I find it very easy to make smart food choices. I'm not craving a burger and beer ever. The "food noise" that natually lean people know nothing about just vanishes. It's magic.

I've had several close friends lost to crazy cancers that came out of nowhere. I also have family that is debilitated by obesity and diabetes. Will GLP-1's maybe give me trouble down the road? Sure, but I'm going to have a much more fulfilling life on my way there, and risk factors for everything are way down.

In the end I'm a better father, husband and hunter with modern medicine.

 

[brymoore]

1. 1800 - 3000 calories. My "natural" weight is about 25lbs over ideal and I've struggled since childhood. I've done hardcore keto and got shredded, but that just wasn't sustainable. Really hard to be social with kids and navigate clean eating.

2. I'm a casual powerlifter, dabbled in running a bit but I just enjoy low impact weightlifting. Burning calories is not the answer - can't out run a bad diet (cuts are made in the kitchen). See #1.

3. Yeah. I'm currently on a cut (cycle off meds just to keep my metabolism from going full sloth mode) but still back on strength build mode as well. With TRT I'm able to build muscle while losing fat, something I did on strict keto as well.

Can I be fanatical and center my life around getting shredded "the right/natural way"? Yes. Will it be sustainable and not harder and harder as I age? No.

With GLP-1's I find it very easy to make smart food choices. I'm not craving a burger and beer ever. The "food noise" that natually lean people know nothing about just vanishes. It's magic.

I've had several close friends lost to crazy cancers that came out of nowhere. I also have family that is debilitated by obesity and diabetes. Will GLP-1's maybe give me trouble down the road? Sure, but I'm going to have a much more fulfilling life on my way there, and risk factors for everything are way down.

In the end I'm a better father, husband and hunter with modern medicine.

I was thinking of this thread as I hiked a hill tonight. Your comment on natural weight brought back my thoughts on genetics.

I’ve always been relatively in shape weight wise. If I need to lose weight, I can do it with a little discipline. My sister, on the other hand, received the genetics of my Dad’s mother. She’s always fighting her weight. My Dad is similar and so are two of my sisters four kids. They’re naturally a little heavy. My Dad yo-yoed on diets his whole life. I took after my mom who is thin.

About 20 years ago my sister fought hard to lose a lot of weight after kids. She used weight watchers. It took over a year for her to hit her goal weight. I remember at one point she was walking 8-10 miles a day, religious on her diet, was still stuck at a weight. She’s had to fight for every last pound.

She’s successfully kept the weight off but must track her diet daily. She’s on weight watchers for life. It’s not that she indulges in the extra food or binges, she’s past that stage of her life, but any variance in diet causes weight gain.

Anyways, long story to say we’re all different. The idea that there’s a simple solution to weight loss that applies to everyone is ignoring a lot of other factors.

 

[wolfpup]

1. 1800 - 3000 calories. My "natural" weight is about 25lbs over ideal and I've struggled since childhood. I've done hardcore keto and got shredded, but that just wasn't sustainable. Really hard to be social with kids and navigate clean eating.

2. I'm a casual powerlifter, dabbled in running a bit but I just enjoy low impact weightlifting. Burning calories is not the answer - can't out run a bad diet (cuts are made in the kitchen). See #1.

3. Yeah. I'm currently on a cut (cycle off meds just to keep my metabolism from going full sloth mode) but still back on strength build mode as well. With TRT I'm able to build muscle while losing fat, something I did on strict keto as well.

Can I be fanatical and center my life around getting shredded "the right/natural way"? Yes. Will it be sustainable and not harder and harder as I age? No.

With GLP-1's I find it very easy to make smart food choices. I'm not craving a burger and beer ever. The "food noise" that natually lean people know nothing about just vanishes. It's magic.

I've had several close friends lost to crazy cancers that came out of nowhere. I also have family that is debilitated by obesity and diabetes. Will GLP-1's maybe give me trouble down the road? Sure, but I'm going to have a much more fulfilling life on my way there, and risk factors for everything are way down.

In the end I'm a better father, husband and hunter with modern medicine.

Finally someone who keeps it real and uses this as a tool and not an end all. Modern medicine has its place and abuse as well but there is nothing wrong with your thought process here. Couldn't agree more with your final statement!

 

[Laelkhunter]

I feel bad for the people that are taking the GLP-1 drugs to lose weight, and they lose so much they end up with what is called "Ozempic Face". They look gaunt and unhealthy, sunken cheeks and droopy eyes. They either don't know when to stop or are afraid they will gain their weight back if they stop because they didn't change their lifestyle eating habits. If they go back and start overeating again, they will gain all of the weight back, and probably more.

 

[Forkyfinder]

I’m

i certainly wasn’t trying to offend anyone I dispense the drug every day. Just noting what I’ve seen with the body composition machine (muscle fat water). We don’t check A1c but people have had some incredible results including weight loss, some people turn into skeletons. We have had a few people that have gotten pancreatitis on the GLP-1s. My anecdotal experience which isn’t worth much. Back to shooting by bow so I can do better in the first shot challenge.

Actually your opinion on it carries some weight, to me anyway.

Someone in pharmacy saying use it with risk awareness and understanding is refreshing. Some of the consumers (patients?) advocate for it as if it is harmless without potential for issues, and thats simply not true.

 

[relino99]

For anyone reading this thread in 2025: there are more affordable options now compared to what was discussed back then. I went with Minimal, an online medical service where you get a personalized plan that includes treatment, nutrition, and fitness - no insurance needed. It’s not just about medication, but also about having a team that constantly tracks your progress. I lost around 14% of my body weight in six months, and they helped me avoid falling back into old habits.

 

[JAG]

For anyone reading this thread in 2025: there are more affordable options now compared to what was discussed back then. I went with Minimal, an online medical service where you get a personalized plan that includes treatment, nutrition, and fitness - no insurance needed. It’s not just about medication, but also about having a team that constantly tracks your progress. I lost around 14% of my body weight in six months, and they helped me avoid falling back into old habits.

After my health insurance discounts ceased, we tried a local compounder, then found an online pharmacy through OrderlyMeds.

OrderlyMeds has a discount for a three-month starter pack ($166/mo), but it returns to being expensive again at $499/mo.

Today, our latest supply is from "Greenwich Rx" out of Tomball, TX. They offered the best discount through a 1-year, upfront payment.

Warning; despite the following political content, please refrain from any divisiveness since I find it helpful for planning and have zero intent to stir up TDS or TVS: Trump might achieve some control over drug prices, but the media's recent excitement about SCOTUS' cold reaction to his tariff war (no decision yet) and three (D) victories, they think it is a possible slow down of the Trump train. If the train slows, he may have less of a chance to fix some of these high-cost/high-demand drugs.

 

[Mrc]

Saw a show one time where they looked at weights of identical twins separated at birth. They located them 30 or 40 years later to check for weight differences. They all weighed within 5lbs. of each other except on one set where there was a thirty five pound difference. They were brothers and one was running 10 miles a day. They felt if he hadn’t been doing what they thought was extreme exercise that he would have weighed the same as his brother. One girl was raised on a farm and they ate bacon and eggs and her sister was raised in a family that was health conscious and heavy on vegetables. They both weighed within 5 lbs of each other. Was very interesting.