They do make them directly for us, they are fully Vortex scopes (including the same warranty) and slot as a lower end Viper. We get them in lots periodically. Funny how the folks that hate on Vortex don't see "how the sausage is made" with the other vendors.......personal taste and eye preference (yes everyone's eye will see just a little bit differently through every optic) and budget is what you should think about. Check a bunch of glass to see which one you like the best at your price point and don't worry about the rest. BTW, we (Scheels) have an unconditional satisfaction guarantee with everything we sell. If you have to by online and don't like it, send it back no hassle. We are a partner with them too so if you DO have an issue with any Vortex you don't have to send it in, just bring it to us and we will replace if we have it. In almost a year and a half I have taken a total on ONE Vortex scope back and that joker was using a Crossfire on a 300 RUM with $20 rings. In the end, try a nd decide for yourself.