Unknown Suppressors OG Experience

[Wind Gypsy]

What about the OG L? That should compensate for fat barrels.

It's twice the weight of an OG 6.5 which kills it for me.

 

[Wind Gypsy]

2 very similarly setup rifles - both with 18" barrels. One with ultra 7 and one with OG 6.5. The cover on the OG makes it look even longer than it is. Picture doesn't fully do it justice, i really like the shorter form factor with the OG.

 

[rtraverdavis]

I have both the XC and the OG 6.5. Just got the OG though on 12/24 and have not shot it yet. For me, the OG is attractive in smaller cartridges and bigger volume cans are attractive for larger ones.

How I look at these two cans at least:

OG 6.5
- Impressive suppression for something that weighs 7.5 ounces (mine was only 7.2!) and only adds 4" overall length.
- Not a ton of volume so might not do as well with lots of powder, cant add end cap brake for additional recoil control.
- Ideal for 223, ARC, BR variants, up to creedmoor/308 sized cases that dont have a ton of gas or recoil
- On modest cases like ARC, BR, GT variants, you can get 2-3" extra barrel length to get some velocity back to keep closer to Creedmoor/308 type cases with less recoil/noise and still have same rifle form factor as it would have had with a shorter barrel and a 6-7" can.
- Mine will live on my primary hunting gun - an 18" 6 creedmoor. I've been kicking around the idea of putting a 6 dasher tube on it too and a 20" tube would be more live able with this can.
- Doesn't play nice with carbon barrels but carbon barrels are ghey anyway.

Nomad XC Ti
- Great all around balance of weight, length, suppression, and modularity and tends to be readily available at lots of brick and mortar store fronts so you dont need to pay another transfer fee
- 30 cal so is flexible for people who want to move one can across a bunch of different rifles.
- There are numerous end cap brake options for it to help it mitigate recoil even more. Mine currently has a RecoilX brake end cap and it stays on my NRL purposed 6.5 creedmoor. I intend to dust off my 7 saum soon and give it a run there as well where i think it'd be a good fit. Current brake end cap options i'm aware of - Dead Air e-brake, Salmon river solutions, and RecoilX. I'd go with one of the later two.

Other ones I'd consider (have not used these):

-Airlock Zero Gravity - I'd probably get the 7mm one just for a hair more volume and less back pressure for a 6.5 PRC. Supposedly unbelievable suppression for size/weight but heat up a bit faster than others. One piece like the OGs which i think is ideal for folks looking for the best weight/performance without needed modularity. No end cap brakes.

-Stealth Additive Works (SAW) Orev - this fits the Scythe/US Reaper type form factor (a C-hair shorter than nomad XC), they are coming out with a printed ti brake end cap. I believe SAW is the OEM for Airlock and i'm extrapolating some performance here on an educated hunch. Very little first hand reports out on these.

I also have a Gen 1 TBAC ultra 7 and a SiCo Scythe. The U7, Scythe, and XC are all close enough on suppression front that I dont think the differences are worth fussing about. XC is probably the best but i haven't done real apples to apples tests with them to pick the fly shit out of the chili. I do appreciate the shorter overall length cans compared to the u7.

This is really helpful. Thank you. You think a 20” 6.5 PRC would be a bit much for the OG Six-Five? That would be the primary gun it would be used on. I don’t currently own anything larger in caliber than 6.5mm.

Current contenders:
US OG Six Five
Dead Air Ti XC
US Reaper w/ 6.5mm front cap
Airlock Zero Gravity 7mm

I appreciate all the help and insight, everybody.

 

[Elkmagnet]

I have both the XC and the OG 6.5. Just got the OG though on 12/24 and have not shot it yet. For me, the OG is attractive in smaller cartridges and bigger volume cans are attractive for larger ones.

Can you update us after you get to shoot the OG? I have a 22" 6 creedmoor and it might be the solution I'm looking for.

 

[Wind Gypsy]

This is really helpful. Thank you. You think a 20” 6.5 PRC would be a bit much for the OG Six-Five? That would be the primary gun it would be used on. I don’t currently own anything larger in caliber than 6.5mm.

Current contenders:
US OG Six Five
Dead Air Ti XC
US Reaper w/ 6.5mm front cap
Airlock Zero Gravity 7mm

I appreciate all the help and insight, everybody.

"Too much" is probably in the eye of the beholder on this? I think the OG would make it quite a bit more pleasant to shoot and work fine. If I had something bigger than a creedmoor in that bore size i'd give it a whirl this week and report back.

I dont think there is a bad choice in that bunch. You might get a couple dB quieter and a little more recoil reduction with some of the others but all at a bit of an added length compromise. For a hunting gun, if you are not going to put a brake front cap on a reaper or nomad, i'd be looking at the airlock or OG.

 

[Wind Gypsy]

Can you update us after you get to shoot the OG? I have a 22" 6 creedmoor and it might be the solution I'm looking for.

Yep. I intend to get to the range sometime this week.

 

[noharleyyet]

...following, trying to figure out what I wanna screw on the 7PRC Seekins.

 

[mtmuley]

...following, trying to figure out what I wanna screw on the 7PRC Seekins.

Ask Pat. mtmuley

 

[rtraverdavis]

Ask Pat. mtmuley

@psinclair

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

 

[mtmuley]

@psinclair

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

If I wanted a suppressor, first call I'd make. mtmuley

 

[Carl]

I've got a OG and OG 6.5, a TBAC Ultra 7 Gen 2, and a Magnus, and have been around plenty of Nomad's amongst many others. The Nomad's seem good, no knocks, near as I can tell they seem similar to my Ultra 7. I am friends with some of the crew who developed the OG, and I do like to support my friends, so I could be biased.

Here's what I wrote about the OG when I first got some rounds on it (the OG 6.5 does seem quieter):

I’ve made it out shooting with my OG twice now. The first shot, it sounded a little loud, to be honest. However, everyone around me that day was shooting TBAC Magnus cans which are $$$, high volume, and especially quiet. They’re different categories of suppressor’s.

Hard to say for certain, but I feel like the OG got slightly quieter as I got some rounds on it. After a couple hundred shots I did a head to head with my Ultra 7 Gen 2, my go to hunting can.



OG on a 24” Seekins 6 Creed, Ultra 7 on a 22” Tikka 243. I went back and forth maybe 15 shots each side by side. Sometimes I thought the Ultra 7 was a whisker quieter, sometimes I thought it was a wash. I expect the Ultra 7 would meter ever so slightly better, but could be wrong, my ears aren’t calibrated or anything. They were close, close enough that I really don’t care from a sound perspective. I do prefer the OG form factor for adding less overall length, which is a much clearer difference to me than anything acoustically.


I haven't re-tested with the OG 6.5, but I use it all the time (including a bunch today) am quite happy with it, and plan to get another. The form factor is the sales point for me, essentially getting 3" of barrel length back for free vs my Ultra 7, close to that with a short Nomad. The Airlock cans are intriguing, don't know about the tech but they seem to be doing something right. The OG L doesn't do it for me, but the OG fits on my Seekins fine.

 

[rtraverdavis]

I've got a OG and OG 6.5, a TBAC Ultra 7 Gen 2, and a Magnus, and have been around plenty of Nomad's amongst many others. The Nomad's seem good, no knocks, near as I can tell they seem similar to my Ultra 7. I am friends with some of the crew who developed the OG, and I do like to support my friends, so I could be biased.

Here's what I wrote about the OG when I first got some rounds on it (the OG 6.5 does seem quieter):

I’ve made it out shooting with my OG twice now. The first shot, it sounded a little loud, to be honest. However, everyone around me that day was shooting TBAC Magnus cans which are $$$, high volume, and especially quiet. They’re different categories of suppressor’s.

Hard to say for certain, but I feel like the OG got slightly quieter as I got some rounds on it. After a couple hundred shots I did a head to head with my Ultra 7 Gen 2, my go to hunting can.

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OG on a 24” Seekins 6 Creed, Ultra 7 on a 22” Tikka 243. I went back and forth maybe 15 shots each side by side. Sometimes I thought the Ultra 7 was a whisker quieter, sometimes I thought it was a wash. I expect the Ultra 7 would meter ever so slightly better, but could be wrong, my ears aren’t calibrated or anything. They were close, close enough that I really don’t care from a sound perspective. I do prefer the OG form factor for adding less overall length, which is a much clearer difference to me than anything acoustically.


I haven't re-tested with the OG 6.5, but I use it all the time (including a bunch today) am quite happy with it, and plan to get another. The form factor is the sales point for me, essentially getting 3" of barrel length back for free vs my Ultra 7, close to that with a short Nomad. The Airlock cans are intriguing, don't know about the tech but they seem to be doing something right. The OG L doesn't do it for me, but the OG fits on my Seekins fine.

Thanks @Carl. This is the kind of info I am looking for. How would you rate the recoil reduction in the OG Six Five relative to comparable cans like the TBAC Ultra 7? I like that I could put tape over the OG while hunting and keep it water tight, but I also would like to have a can that reduces recoil enough to spot shots.

 

[Frequently Banned Troll]

How come you don’t hear much about the AB Raptor? I have 2 and they’re pretty great. Both mine are the 6 spiral with a 3” reflex (over the barrel) mount. Only adds 5.5” to barrel length. It’s a pretty good combo for light and enough blast chamber.

 

[rtraverdavis]

How come you don’t hear much about the AB Raptor? I have 2 and they’re pretty great. Both mine are the 6 spiral with a 3” reflex (over the barrel) mount. Only adds 5.5” to barrel length. It’s a pretty good combo for light and enough blast chamber.

I’ve heard nothing but good things about the AB Raptors. They’re just a little heavier than I want. I could be talked into one though. Especially since they’re ribbed for my pleasure.

 

[Carl]

Thanks @Carl. This is the kind of info I am looking for. How would you rate the recoil reduction in the OG Six Five relative to comparable cans like the TBAC Ultra 7? I like that I could put tape over the OG while hunting and keep it water tight, but I also would like to have a can that reduces recoil enough to spot shots.

Regarding recoil reduction between the OG/OG 6.5 and the Ultra 7, same/same as well as I can tell via shooting. A well designed recoil sled might show some difference, but my shoulder and eyeball says a difference either way is in the noise.

How come you don’t hear much about the AB Raptor? I have 2 and they’re pretty great. Both mine are the 6 spiral with a 3” reflex (over the barrel) mount. Only adds 5.5” to barrel length. It’s a pretty good combo for light and enough blast chamber.

From everything I know it's actually a very good suppressor system. Not everyone is secure enough to attach something that could have come from Schnee's OR Erotique to their rifle, and they could be better at marketing. They're also probably a whisker behind the cutting edge curve on performance vs weight.

 

[Deez Nutz]

How come you don’t hear much about the AB Raptor? I have 2 and they’re pretty great. Both mine are the 6 spiral with a 3” reflex (over the barrel) mount. Only adds 5.5” to barrel length. It’s a pretty good combo for light and enough blast chamber.

#1 they look like a butt plug and I’m not into that.
#2 there are smaller/lighter/quieter/cheaper cans out there

 

[Frequently Banned Troll]

#1 they look like a butt plug and I’m not into that.
#2 there are smaller/lighter/quieter/cheaper cans out there

 

[rtraverdavis]

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What about the reflex though? 3” reflex mount is 4.7 oz. Do you hunt without the reflex?

 

[brockel]

That’s what they all say.

Exactly

First one I ever bought I did it all online and ordered a .22 cal because “I was only ever going to use it for coyote hunting and could never see myself hunting big game with it”. Salesman called me later that day and talked me into spending the little extra to go to a .30 cal can just incase I changed my mind about hunting big game with it and man am I glad he did that. That’s when wait times were over a year.