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Mtmiller, they dont get as big as the alligator gars down south do. these are decent size fish, we saw a few a little bigger but missed or didnt get a shot. \ Check out the one my buddy got, the white spot on his head is where i took his eye out, and a chunk of his head on an earlier shot. we spotted him a little later and this time hit him a little more square.
The carp may start in this weekend if the weather stays warm. They are real late this year.