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I have a question to ask the group. My research has led me to most likely getting the Scythe for my 7prc. Has anyone ran this can along with the ASR Muzzle break they offer too? If so do you see a noticable amount of recoil reduction by using the brake with the can? Reason asking my mom will be using my rifle this fall and if i can lessen the recoil for her that would be great.
Thanks
Jame
I have the Scythe Ti and use the "muzzle brake" end cap, not on the barrel, the one that threads to the front of the suppressor. I shoot PRS and can tell you that is works great, allows you to spot your impacts. It works just like the Area 419 Maverick. Its not as quiet as a solid end capped suppressor, but then that's not what it was designed for, but it is still pretty quiet and you do not get the massive headaches after a 200 round match that you get with a straight brake. It does come with the solid end cap if you want to swap it out. Both reduce felt recoil quite a bit and I use it for hunting here in the States, but taking it to Canada for moose is a no go. A muzzle brake that has a suppressor over it does not do anything for recoil. The suppressor negates the brake because the gas is still surrounded by the suppressor body and the baffles in the suppressor slow the gas down enough to render the actual muzzle brake useless except as a means to attach the suppressor to the barrel.
Seems reasonable for any shooter that is not overly-sensitive to recoil. The suppressed noise also is very important to preventing the dreaded flinch when shooting.Just talked to a friend with a can and the 7 mm PRC. He says, dont waste time with a muzzle brake. The Scythe will reduce recoil considerably on its own. Make sure to use anti-seize grease when you attach it directly to the rifle
You hit on an important point: FLINCH. Its my opinion that you cant hunt with a muzzlebrake unless you have excellent hearing protection or you'll develop a serious flinch. And who hunts with hearing protection on?? Foolish. If you practice a lot, recoil is a minor issue. Only newbies get a sore shoulder. When practicing for a hunt, ya certainly dont want to shoot 5 boxes of ammo at a time. Maybe 10 shots. So practicing often is more important. The first shot must count.Seems reasonable for any shooter that is not overly-sensitive to recoil. The suppressed noise also is very important to preventing the dreaded flinch when shooting.
Anecdotally, I can say that my Banish Backcountry can on my 30-06 with short 18" barrel allows me to spot shots when I'm at 8-10x zoom, and recoil is reduced by a perceived "30%." I can shoot it for a 20+ round range session without a sore shoulder or developing a flinch. The Scythe TI is a slightly higher volume can, so likely has a similar recoil reduction on the higher case capacity 7mm PRC cartridge (about 10 grains more powder).
Most suppressor recoil testing seems to indicate around 25-30% recoil reduction as compared to 60-75% reduction for a multi-port brake. Anecdotally, this seems accurate as I feel that my 300 WSM with 20" barrel and 4-port brake has less recoil than my suppressed 30-06, with the tradeoff of excessive muzzle blast and noise.
When practicing for a hunt, ya certainly dont want to shoot 5 boxes of ammo at a time.
1st shot is the one that counts. Get used to practicing as if it did. But practice oftenWhy not? I want to. Don’t always have time to but I’d sure like to.
1st shot is the one that counts. Get used to practicing as if it did. But practice often
You can do whatever pleases you.I’ll pass on loading up my stuff and driving to/from the range a bunch for 10 shots. That sounds like something someone who doesn’t like shooting their gun much would do.
What competitive discipline anywhere do people intentionally improve by getting tiny numbers of reps?