Relax, Everything is Going to be Okay!

[Bonasababy]

Here's my take on it - the data that was collected and presented by public health officials throughout Covid was generally (I'm sure there are exceptions) sound and the best that was available in real-time; however, the actions that were recommended and taken based on that data were often misguided. Pretty much everything is management of risk, and many officials went way too far on minimizing risk without considering the impacts. The public trust in those officials was lost, and rightly so. But the public trust in data, period, was also lost, and that has way more harmful ramifications.

It was an impossible situation for decision makers though.

Came down to the economy versus human lives. Early on so many forget how scary it was. Especially those in rural areas not plugged into --or not caring--what was going in more populated ones.

Just in my circle I had a sibling whose business was shut down--no fun, no problem understanding their reaction to that either--and a family friend, healthy, in their 50's, occupation put him in harms way with contact with people who refused to take precautions--who was killed by it. Guess which one came out Ok from that.

There are after the fact--which aren't completely helpful but do help illustrate the impact of choices--data showing states that were stricter had lower death rates. My state's leaders were trying to hit the balance--in hindsight even they have admitted they might have gone a bit too far in some respects, but they won't and should not apologize for making the best decision they could at the time, especially since after the fact data shows they did better than less restrictive states.

 

[jimh406]

Changing the subject ... how will removing the Endangerment Finding affect the economy?

 

[Gulf of America]

Changing the subject ... how will removing the Endangerment Finding affect the economy?

Natural disasters are pretty expensive. I'm sure the rich will keep getting a lot richer, and our home insurance rates will keep doubling every couple years, and the unemployment rate will probably stay just as low as it is, while wages don't keep up with inflation.

 

[brymoore]

We don't have any history of anything like the tariffs we have now. So, projecting what will happen long term is just a guess. Maybe educated or not but a guess.

There’s a long history of tariffs in the United States and the world to use as a basis for considering the effects of tariffs. Trump’s first tariffs started in 2018. None of this new economics. We’re all paying a tariff tax right now, $132B last year. Some tiers of US businesses are suffering. Soy bean farmers? Bourbon? I can keep naming business types. Import products outside the country are suffering (gun safe manufacturing). Foreign car makers are starting to leave. Upside? Threaten US businesses until they promise to invest in the United States. Thug economics.

 

[Gulf of America]

Threaten US businesses until they promise to invest in the United States.

Or Trump crypto, 747, library, etc.

 

[Handlebar]

There’s a long history of tariffs in the United States and the world to use as a basis for considering the effects of tariffs. Trump’s first tariffs started in 2018. None of this new economics. We’re all paying a tariff tax right now, $132B last year. Some tiers of US businesses are suffering. Soy bean farmers? Bourbon? I can keep naming business types. Import products outside the country are suffering (gun safe manufacturing). Foreign car makers are starting to leave. Upside? Threaten US businesses until they promise to invest in the United States. Thug economics.

Tariffs have not been used as a negotiating ploy like this before and certainly never applied across the board like this. I am sure that some are feeling this, it kind of reminds me when coal miners were told to "learn to code". Free trade which was one sided and globalist policy got us to the point that we found out we did not produce aspirin during Covid. China will ultimately have to come to grips with the fact that their economy is built on selling thing overseas, they don't buy much of their own stuff and the customer (us) is always right. We are the largest market in the world; the seller does not always get to name the price. Bourbon really? I am more worried about steel, chips, aluminum. Free trade is wonderful as long as both parties prosper, we decimated manufacturing jobs in this country to buy cheap tv and towels at Wal mart. One thing everyone forgot was you have to have a middle class to buy that stuff

 

[Wind Gypsy]

The medical community continues to lose trust as a whole. NIH and WHO still gaslight us about COVID originating from a bat and not from their negligence (best case) right? How about all those vax profits that the public helped fund?

 

[Irrelevant]

Just a casual mention of masks triggered a lot of people. I can't imagine what would happen if the rest of the issues with Covid were pointed out. I deleted my posts since it seemed people were very upset. I'll leave more triggering to someone else.

I'm a pretty reasonable person. But you're a real asshole.

 

[SaskHunter]

I'm a pretty reasonable person. But you're a real asshole.

It's crazy how social media has emboldened idiots incapable of critical thinking.

I follow a pretty basic litmus test when it comes to social media: would I be willing to get punched in the face for saying this to someone's face or no? If not, then I usually keep it to myself, if it's a hill I am willing to die on in person, I'll post it.