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Lufkin man and three friends bag 880-pound, 13-foot, 101/2-inch-long gator near Trinity
By STACY FAISON
The Lufkin Daily News
Monday, September 24, 2007
They say everything's bigger in Texas, and apparently alligators are no exception.
A Lufkin man and three of his friends have a potential state record on their hands after capturing a gargantuan gator Friday morning near Trinity.

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From left to right, Justin Wells, Jarret Hanus, Tom Bass and Ryan Haltom pose in Trinity with their 880-pound gator that measured 13 feet, 10 1/2 inches long.
Justin Wells of Lufkin, Tom Bass of Dallas, Jarrett Hanus of Spring and Ryan Haltom of Houston set the baits together Thursday night at the Gospel Ranch, which is about five miles outside of Trinity.
"It was the experience of a lifetime, and I'm glad(Ryan) took me out there on it," said Wells, a Lufkin High School graduate and SFA forestry student. "I don't think we'll ever catch one bigger than that."
"We'd gotten word back in the spring time that there was a big gator out there," said Haltom, a wildlife biologist and land management consultant, "so me and Tommy had gone out there several times and scouted and seen quite a bit of gator activity and videotapes of gators."
Ranch manager Larry Denson had spotted the big gator, prompting them to get tags for the season, and Thursday night was just "kind of a last-minute deal before the season was over," Haltom said.
Using the hook-and-line method, the group anchored a rope to a tree, left enough rope so the gator could run with it, and hung a 14-ought treble hook about a foot above the water with their own "secret recipe of chicken and some other stuff."
"We can't let too many secrets out of the bag," Haltom said.
When they showed up Friday morning, they had a line in the water, but when they started pulling on it, it was tangled. Not knowing whether the gator was dead or alive, the four slowly made their way through the 6- to 7-foot-deep water to untangle the gator and tie some ropes around him to drag him out. But they quickly discovered it wasn't going to be that easy.
"He drowned himself," Wells said. "We believe he just dove underneath the water and got tangled up in a stump, and gators have to come up for air every 15 minutes, so we were pretty sure he was dead, but we still weren't sure."
"Once we figured out he was dead and he wasn't going to get us," Haltom said, "we started diving down and feeling on him and we realized he was big. We could stand on top of him and we were head and shoulders above the water. That's when we knew he had to be a big guy.
"The scales kind of change. On his belly there's big, slick scales, or tiles, and as you get toward their mouth it gets into some softer leather, and we got to feeling around and thought, 'OK, this is his mouth.' But when we got to tying him up, we realized it wasn't his mouth it was his leg."
They broke a 400-pound test rope before realizing that "a truck and a rope wouldn't do it," eventually enlisting the help of a tractor and some chains to finally get the gator out of the water. Next it was off to ranch headquarters to clean him up, hang him for a measurement by Texas Parks and Wildlife, then place him in the bed of a truck filled with ice for the trip to the taxidermist for a full life-size mount.
"You couldn't tell what we had in the bed of the truck because we had a ton of ice on him," Haltom said. "We went and cleaned Brookshire Brothers out. We had 400 pounds of ice on him."
"I get excited right now just thinking about it," Haltom said. "When I reached down there and grabbed that claw and we got to looking at each other, we were jumping around, high-fiving, and we were actually saying the words, 'state record.'"
The gator wound up weighing in at 13 feet, 101/2 inches long and 880 pounds. And while they don't know yet whether their gator is an official state record "Until I see it on a piece of paper from Parks and Wildlife, I'm just going to say it's a potential," Haltom said the guys had some heavy celebrating to take care of over the weekend.
"We immediately drove to Houston and went to Beeville to go dove hunting and celebrate," Haltom said. "And we were tired puppies, let me tell you.
"It's going to be in the record books. We just don't know if it's going to be the state (hook-and-line) record."
"Not knowing what we were getting into when we were walking into the water, it was an adrenaline rush," Wells said, "and when we finally figured out how big it was, you just can't even describe the feeling."
Although Haltom said the four set the baits together and worked to get the gator out, Bass will be written down as the hunter. Once the mount is done, the guys intend to donate it to a museum or find some place to display it.
 

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hung a 14-ought treble hook about a foot above the water with their own "secret recipe of chicken and some other stuff."

only a foot above the water, a little guy could have jumped that high, but they got him. They had to get him out from under the water. Pretty amazing story.
 
Tom was that gator actually in the water or under it ???
Never did understand that expression....

Just fuggin wit ya! ;)
 
Below the surface, hence; as they say, under water. None of him up in the air, none of him above the water, all of him down in the water, under the surface. He was under water that was above him. That would be under air also, but he was so low, he was below air and below water. Above water to, so more like in it, but completely in water, i.e. under it. Down there where there's no air. Maybe saying "below air" is accurate, but he wasn't above any air either, all of him was below air and in water. Not just below air and in water, but completely submerged in water, hence, as they say, under water. That's it maybe, "completely submerged in water"="under water".

I think the Florida state record is a couple inches bigger. I didn't look up other states' records, like LA, they are all over that state, alligators.
 
Wouldn't he be Surrounded by water ? Although gators are made up of water , I'm not sure the %, I think people are 78% water but gators have hard Skin, so humans can make boots and purses with them... so maybe 50% or maybe less or more but not counting that the water is around him and he's not "IN" it. You can be "IN" trouble or have trouble surrounding you but I'm not sure you can be IN water or below it. Water is also made up of air, like the body so he has water/air under him as well. H20 is what water is. So there is Oxygen which is air in the water and unless he was under ther water as in the dirt below the water he would still have air under him.

I think I understand where you were going though .... :D
 
Water is also made up of air, H20 is what water is.

Hmmmmm...not really but kinda sorta maybe. Agreed that H20 is what water is but disagree that Water is made up of air....would have agreed that Oxygen is a component of Water (notice I said Oxygen...not air).

Water can have disolved oxygen (again, not air) in it and can also be either a liquid, solid, or gas. Now air I don't think (if again, it was what Water was made up of) can be a solid though it can be a gas or liquid if it's in your shorts after a bad meal at Taco Bell...Sorry Jose. Air is actually a mixture of gasses itself- primarily oxygen (like what's in Water) and nitrogen...but we can save that for another thread...if we have to.

That all being said...still a big f'n lizard!
 
MarvB, Not sure if you or I killed the thread !?!?! Maybe it was Tom's post. But I'm not sure ?!?! It could have been but maybe it's not. Sometimes people don't understand what he writes but sometimes they do and yet others don't. I understand and feel the same way he does to when I understand what is written but some don't but I do. I actually liek Water although I like my woater frozen into cubes and put into a Coke or pepsi and some Crown poured on top but there is Water in the ice that is in my drink :D :D

I want to hunt a Gator some day.......
 
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