Try the Wood Bottoms at Loma next time you're up that way. I used to do well for Huns there although it seems to get a lot more hunters in recent years. Great habitat on the edge of grain fields all the way round the valley. You can spend all day working it. Be careful where the field runs out to the river. That cutbank is really something. Had a shot at a rooster there last fall and pulled it at the last second when I realized what a mistake it would have been if Ellie had jumped over that cliff. The cutbank on the other side of the river is downright spectacular.I hunted outside of Great Falls last week. Similar to your findings, birds are very concentrated around water because of limited feed away from it.
We never saw a single Hun, and sharp tails were somewhat scarce as well. This is an prolonged after affect of the huge snows a couple of years ago, and then drought on top. Very few of the snow berry bushes had any fruit.
FYI Ms Biologist, just how concerned is the state of Montana about the evil Russian olive? Well, not that concerned it seems. In fact, it's in the least concerned category of all noxious weeds. In fact, it's not a noxious weed at all.Are you F’ing kidding me? You literally just posted a link to a paper illustrating the negative impacts of Russian olives and why they should be removed from eastern Montana.
I really can’t comprehend you’re thinking. You’ll listen to biologists/scientists on climate change and a select few other topics, but not on basic ecology and habitat? Unless you misinterpret the paper, apparently. Makes no sense. But I guess I’m just a biologist. What do I know
I’m done. Butchering calls.
@theat beautiful pics! Looks like some great hunts.
Yes, as I posted quite a while ago, it is a regulated plant in Montana. Thanks for the confirmation. It is also listed as noxious in several Montana counties, and multiple western states. It continues to be petitioned for inclusion on the state level.FYI Ms Biologist, just how concerned is the state of Montana about the evil Russian olive? Well, not that concerned it seems. In fact, it's in the least concerned category of all noxious weeds. In fact, it's not a noxious weed at all.
Montana Noxious Weed Information
Montana Noxious Weed ListMontana Noxious Weed List (February 2017)
Updated 2020 flipbook of Montana's Noxious Weeds
Priority 1A:These weeds are not present or have a very limited presence in Montana. Management criteria will require eradication if detected, education, and prevention.
Priority 3: Regulated Plants (NOT MONTANA LISTED NOXIOUS WEEDS)These regulated plants have the potential to have significant negative impacts. The plant may not be intentionally spread or sold other than as a contaminant in agricultural products. The state recommends research, education and prevention to minimize the spread of the regulated plant.
- Cheatgrass (Bromus tectorum)
- Hydrilla (Hydrilla verticillata)
- Russian olive (Elaeagnus angustifolia)
- Brazilian waterweed (Egeria densa)
- Parrot feather watermilfoil (Myriophyllum aquaticum or M. brasiliense)
You’re not, it’s niche…he’s a very coarse but lovable futbol player/coach in a current Apple TV series. Problem is basically every sentence he says includes the f word, makes it tough for family forum programming.Ok, I’m dumb and don’t know the reference. Hit me with it, and bring some levity to this train wreck. I beg you.
Yes, more than anything in the world I'd love to live in the 19th century, but it's not realistic. We have to work with reality and reality is the world is changing. I'm a retired naturalist but one who also lives in the real world. I would rather focus my attention on ecological problems that pose genuine threats, not ones that may or may not possibly be slightly more of an ecological threat than their benefit. I'll fix my sights on zebra muscles and rusty crayfish and the like. Those are real threats. Disasters. No benefit whatsoever. Ask any black Angus cow on a hot drought afternoon how much of a disaster a grove of shady Russian olive is. Or ask the rancher who has to haul a little less water to them. Ask any pheasant or sharptail if they prefer scrounging for sparce sunburned native grass seeds or plucking fruit in the protective cover of Russian olive trees. Russian olive is exotic but it's only an ecogical pest in the eyes of the beholder. Thankfully the powers that be at the state level are realistic enough to weigh the benefits against the detriments ... and accept reality. They are approaching this "threat" with eyes wide open. The manager of the bird refuge approaches it with a closed mind.Yes, as I posted quite a while ago, it is a regulated plant in Montana. Thanks for the confirmation. It is also listed as noxious in several Montana counties, and multiple western states. It continues to be petitioned for inclusion on the state level.
You like to lecture others about maturity while behaving like a child yourself. Nearly every thread you participate in is a derailment of bitterness and negativity.
I’d rather keep the natives…prairie sandreed, blue bunch wheatgrass, blue grama, sideoats grama, little bluestem, big bluestem, purple three awn, prairie junegrass, porcupine grass, Indian rice grass, green needle grass, needle and thread, purple prairie clover, silver leaf scurfpea, bread root scurfpea, painted milk vetch, echinacea, liatris, blanket flower, winter fat, rabbit brush, and yes non-invasive native willows and cottonwoods. Plus hundreds of other species that make the prairies amazing. But I have a feeling you wouldn’t have a clue if you were amongst those species or not. I’d also rather keep all the native wildlife that depend on those species than manage to their detriment just to propagate a non-native bird or give miserable old bastards a tree to sit under. The pheasants would be perfectly fine without them.
It’s a shame you lack a shred of understanding or appreciation of native species. In fact you seem downright hostile towards them, as well as any biologist who doesn’t agree with your view of nature. I’m betting your “essentially second BA” wasn’t in ecology. But thanks for the education. Ya learn’d me.
Seems like pheasants are more plentiful in eastern MT.
In NW MT, I'm seeing mostly solitary old roosters...wonder if some broods failed with the summer drought?
I hunt every morning Mondays-Fridays for 3-4 hours, quietly moving into blocking position when the lab gets birdy.
Hunting solo and in silence in fun.
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