MN Deer Farmer warning...they are back at it

[Bonasababy]

Reporting that after losing in court every step of the way right up to the Supreme Court...MN Deer farmers plan to try and use the MN legislature to drop the law enacted to help control the spread of CWD in the state.

Most instances of CWD in the state have been directly linked to deer farms, including some highly egregious ones.

No word yet on which legislators will sponsor this, sure it will be the usual rabid anti government/wacko republicans though....Will be watching it.

 

[mntatonka]

Reporting that after losing in court every step of the way right up to the Supreme Court...MN Deer farmers plan to try and use the MN legislature to drop the law enacted to help control the spread of CWD in the state.

Most instances of CWD in the state have been directly linked to deer farms, including some highly egregious ones.

No word yet on which legislators will sponsor this, sure it will be the usual rabid anti government/wacko republicans though....Will be watching it.

Wesenberg will be one.

The legislature is their only option, but it's also nearly the same makeup in the legislature that put the newest restrictions on deer farms, so I don't know if they'll get much traction. Especially considering they already went through the entire court system and lost.

Will definitely be watching though.

 

[Bonasababy]

Wesenberg will be one.

The legislature is their only option, but it's also nearly the same makeup in the legislature that put the newest restrictions on deer farms, so I don't know if they'll get much traction. Especially considering they already went through the entire court system and lost.

Will definitely be watching though.

Yea, but it will be another chance for all the people that voted for him, Steve Green and others to wake up to how their legislators are working against hunters and hunting.

 

[Northwoods]

Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t there currently a 67/67 split in the MN house with the DFL having a majority in the senate? Requiring bipartisan support to pass anything in the house and DFL support in the senate. Then it would have to be signed by a far left governor. Hard to blame any legislation on “rabid republicans”

 

[cgasner1]

Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t there currently a 67/67 split in the MN house with the DFL having a majority in the senate? Requiring bipartisan support to pass anything in the house and DFL support in the senate. Then it would have to be signed by a far left governor. Hard to blame any legislation on “rabid republicans”

We don’t do facts here

 

[Wildabeest]

We don’t do facts here

If “rabid republicans” introduce and sponsor legislation that is opposed to the interests of hunting, then they should absolutely be held accountable for it. Same if it is were “extremism democrats”. This whole mindset where anything my team does is defended and anything the other team does is vilified is completely out of control.

 

[cgasner1]

If “rabid republicans” introduce and sponsor legislation that is opposed to the interests of hunting, then they should absolutely be held accountable for it. Same if it is were “extremism democrats”. This whole mindset where anything my team does is defended and anything the other team does is vilified is completely out of control.

Guess the difference for me is I wouldn’t have mentioned either since both sides hunt I think. Don’t really see a reason to start a pissing match over conservation. Have a nice night

 

[Wildabeest]

Guess the difference for me is I wouldn’t have mentioned either since both sides hunt I think. Don’t really see a reason to start a pissing match over conservation. Have a nice night

Wasn’t pointing at you specifically. Apologies if it came across that way.

 

[CowboyLeroy]

I thought cwd was eliminated in captive deer.


Don't shoot im uneducated

 

[mntatonka]

I thought cwd was eliminated in captive deer.


Don't shoot im uneducated

It could be, if most deer "farmers" actually cared about it. But that would cost them money in double fencing, actual transport bans, etc.

 

[Johnny Bravo]

Why exactly do we have deer "farms"?

 

[mntatonka]

Why exactly do we have deer "farms"?

Money, mostly. Like anything else really.

 

[Bonasababy]

If “rabid republicans” introduce and sponsor legislation that is opposed to the interests of hunting, then they should absolutely be held accountable for it. Same if it is were “extremism democrats”. This whole mindset where anything my team does is defended and anything the other team does is vilified is completely out of control.

Exactly. Likely few know which guys I am talking about...the Mike Lee's of MN, they are that bad. Not just on CWD issues they never saw a piece of public land that shouldn't be sold.

 

[Bonasababy]

Guess the difference for me is I wouldn’t have mentioned either since both sides hunt I think. Don’t really see a reason to start a pissing match over conservation. Have a nice night

I see your point..it shouldn't be partisan, but on this issue it has been. Years after it became clear captive cervid farms were responsible for spreading CWD and were refusing to take basic measures to prevent that, republicans in one house or another killed laws to address deer farm problems.

At that level it is fair to blame the whole caucus, IMO.

Only when democrats gained control of both houses and the governorship...not a good thing on other fronts...
was legislation to address the issue passed.

 

[Bonasababy]

I thought cwd was eliminated in captive deer.


Don't shoot im uneducated

Nope. There is no live test to determine if a deer has it.

Here in MN we have seen:
- infected animals at one farm linked to other infected farms they took an animal from;

- an infected deer found just outside a deer farmers single fence...so nothing preventing nose to nose transmission...where the farmer insisted he had no role and blamed wild deer. When authorities inspected his operation they found multiple still alive infected deer inside his fence and dead deer that had not been tested and reported as required by law. Years of required testing of thousands of hunter killed wild deer in the area showed no incidence of CWD...other than a few which were killed very near the fenced herd;

- Another deer farmer who...rather than test and report deer that died within his fence...as required...took them and dumped them on public land. CWD was discovered in his herd, and a perimeter had to be erected and wild deer within it killed that will be maintained for years (cost well into 6 figures)...borne largely by hunters fees.

Each fall our DNR tests thousands of hunter harvested deer for CWD, including locations where permits and regs had to be changed to allow a much higher than normal harvest. Its a huge all hands on deck operation that deer farmers pay not one penny for...hunters and their license fees on the other hand cover the bulk of the huge cost.

In fact, a few years back some of the Mike Lee type republicans here submitted a bill I the legislature to pay deer farmers for their trouble. Thankfully that didnt pass.

 

[mntatonka]

Nope. There is no live test to determine if a deer has it.

Here in MN we have seen:
- infected animals at one farm linked to other infected farms they took an animal from;

- an infected deer found just outside a deer farmers single fence...so nothing preventing nose to nose transmission...where the farmer insisted he had no role and blamed wild deer. When authorities inspected his operation they found multiple still alive infected deer inside his fence and dead deer that had not been tested and reported as required by law. Years of required testing of thousands of hunter killed wild deer in the area showed no incidence of CWD...other than a few which were killed very near the fenced herd;

- Another deer farmer who...rather than test and report deer that died within his fence...as required...took them and dumped them on public land. CWD was discovered in his herd, and a perimeter had to be erected and wild deer within it killed that will be maintained for years (cost well into 6 figures)...borne largely by hunters fees.

Each fall our DNR tests thousands of hunter harvested deer for CWD, including locations where permits and regs had to be changed to allow a much higher than normal harvest. Its a huge all hands on deck operation that deer farmers pay not one penny for...hunters and their license fees on the other hand cover the bulk of the huge cost.

In fact, a few years back some of the Mike Lee type republicans here submitted a bill I the legislature to pay deer farmers for their trouble. Thankfully that didnt pass.

there IS a live test, but it hasn't been approved by USDA yet, and I haven't heard if it ever really will be. If I were a deer farmer, I'd be pushing like hell to get that vetted and approved.

Companies like Priogen have been developing ways to test literally anything for the prion, and they've shown they can reliably detect it in samples from lymph nodes, to a chunk of ear, to a chunk of the eyelid, even dirt and plants.