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I was watching the news today and they were doing a report on cemetery memorial markers getting ripped off at local graves. This is what the dipshit reporter said...
"High scrap copper prices are to blame".

makes me mad to hear such moronic reporting. That statement goes well with "guns kill people" and "spoons make you fat"
 
No moosie...don't you know it's for the memorabilia market? The damn liberal media saying money may be behind it...I can't believe it.
 
Same thing happened here. Guy stole 58 bronze vases from gravesites. Angel Luna Gonzalez - don't know his nationality, so I would hate to speculate. He was getting a whole $2 for the scrap bronze.
 
...related news

Pasadena, Md.
Kristen Wyatt-AP

Firefighters weren't sure what was causing the smoke rising from a former discount store from this Baltimore discount store in this Balttmore suburb.. The place had been abandoned for years and it's interior stripped to the walls.
When they got inside July 2, they found only one thing burning: a 41 year old man who became engulfed in flames and died after cutting through a high voltage line.
Sean Phelps became another ghastly casualty of what authorities say is a deadly national trend: copper wiring thefts.
High copper prices in recent years have theives breaking into power plants and abandoned factories to rip out the wiring. "Vandals are even stealing from gravesites."
There is no national count of people killed in copper theft attempts, but news accounts put the toll at about two dozen over the past 12 months.
Phelps, a father of nine and a former long-haul trucker who famly members say was trying to scavenge scrap metal to help support his family, was found alone in the empty building, next to a set of bolt cutters,, a police scanner and the stores lone remaining electrical panel.
The practice is so dangerous that utility workers refer to it as "a dance with the devil." But it is profitibl for those who don't get hurt.
Copper prices have shot up almost fourfold in the past decade, an increase attributed to rising demand from Asia. Copper now trades on financial markeets for $3.65 a pound. Then metal is hard to trace and retains its value well when recycled, so thieves are even targeting copper alloys such as brass.
 
I just read yesterday that a guy tried to cut down a power line to get the copper. He should be up for this years Darwin award.
 
When I email my friends in South Africa, I might go a week or two before I hear back from them. The power lines and phone lines get stolen all the time there.
 
Bambistew said:
When I email my friends in South Africa, I might go a week or two before I hear back from them. The power lines and phone lines get stolen all the time there.
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...a testament to Bush's failed international social relief programs.;)
 
Breaking into a power substation and stealing copper wire costs our ratepayers thousands of dollars every year and when we are doing reconductors we now have to be sure to leave any deadheads high off the ground on the poles or the scumbags will steal the wire before we can finish the jobs.

At the subs it can also alter the safety mechanisms and is possible for this entire site, including the outer fencing to become energized as a result of tampering and copper theft. Nearly half of all our security alarms at our subs involve some sort of attempted theft. You can also ended up with a loss of power to the area for several hours and a subsequent loss of 9-1-1 services in the area.

Also pisses of the linemen and troublemen who respond to the calls since the outages are usually “abnormal” in nature and can endanger the utility's workers who have to respond to the call since they don’t always know what to look for.

…becoming a REAL big problem as the local bubbas look for more and more creative ways to replenish their Keystone light…:BLEEP:
 
How long does it take to get 1 Pound of Copper wire ?!?! I know that I've seen copper in wire and you need a Chit load of it to make a pound. Maybe not. But at $3.65 a # it doesn't seem that lucrative ??!

Heck , Minimum wage is around 7 bones now an hour !!

Federal Minimum Wage Increases by $2.10!
President Bush has signed a bill that increased the Federal Minimum Wage rate. The increase is the first ever since 1997! In approximately 60 days, the new rate will take effect and employers must comply. States that are operating under the current Federal Minimum Wage of $5.15 will soon need to comply with the new rate. Although many states are currently operating under a State Minimum Wage that is already higher than the Federal Minimum Wage, they still must post the new notice reflecting the new rate. Purchase The Complete Poster or The Federal Labor Law Poster which will reflect the new Federal Minimum Wage to stay in compliance with the labor law posting requirements.

3 step increase is scheduled as follows:

$5.85 - Summer of 2007
$6.55 - Summer of 2008
$7.25 - Summer of 2009
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I can see Schmalts concern though with the Statement though..
 
No you are right Moosie, you're not gonna get rich but it's still amazing the effort that people will go through to take something. We've seen them cut through two perimenter fences to get to a couple of rolls of #4 copper...and at 250' per roll they are only goint to get $100-$125 ech for scrap.

Some people steal chit just to be stealin', others do it because they are "getting back" at the gubbmint ....go figure....

Calif min wage went to $7.50 this year and I believe will be $8.00 come Jan08
 
A couple weeks ago I had the guys throw a bunch of 2" coper pipe we pulled out of one of our jobs into the back of the P/u and took it to the scrap yard

Picked up over $1600 for a few hours worth of work including windshield time to the scrap yard

I know thats still sitting in the minimum wage catagory for Oscar, but most people think thats pretty good change for 4 hours work... ;) :D
 
When I was back home (Sturgis) last fall for hunting, my hunting buddy was pulling out missile silo cable off his place. Don't remember the exact weight, but I think it was close to 3# per foot of cable. It was very lucrative for him and he was making good commission $$$ on pulling out his neighbors as well.

At the same time I know a contractor friend of mine was rocking a new hotel in Spearfish (just down the road) and just a day after they had sheeted it, someone came in and removed all the recently installed wiring. Seems like that should be an easy criminal to track down.
 
Marv, we had a line construction business for about 20 years. I had several partial coils of #6 copper used for Vertical grounds and bonds in the shed. When I took them to the scrap yard, they wanted ID, in case it was stolen.
We recently tore down our camp, and built a new one, we pulled all the old wiring out and burned the jacket off, it was worth about $100.
 
Miller/whiskers

Problem here (likely the same everywhere) is that a lot of the local scrap yards have about as many morals as the people unloading the chit at them. Common sense would dictate that some yahooo bringing in a coil of unstretched copper ground or ?? and wanting to sell it for scrap prices in all likelihood stole the chit but I think that many of the junkies have side deals going both with the folks doing the stealing and with some of the unlicensed contractors buying the stuff for their own use...:mad:
 
JoseCuervo said:
Anybody have a clue why Schmaltz was mad at the "liberal media" because of the price of scrap metal?
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I'll quote you so Scmaltz can see your question. The answer is: because they reported that the price of scrap metal is to blame instead of blaming the person ripping off the stuff.
 
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