“I don’t want you hunting this outfit.”

[JM77]

woga = Wyoming Outfitters and Guides Association?

First, the Wyo Outfitters and Guides Assoc has nothing to do with regulations and neither does the Outfitter Board. People need to stop reading into news articles. That rarely tell the real story.

 

[idahohuntr]

Wish they hadn't published names/locations. Pretty easy to figure out where they were hunting now.

 

[RealMuddyboots]

Here is another question: I wonder if the outfitter working off the private onto this landlocked public has the approval to do so in their license? Is that required?

Video of the helo hunters actual hunt.

 

[RealMuddyboots]

Drones capable of carrying people, gear and actual kills out is going to crop up real soon. This will be the next battleground IMO.

 

[RealMuddyboots]

Drone Model	Max Payload	Max Flight Time (Fully Loaded)	Use Case
Griff Aviation 300	496 lbs (226 kg)	45 minutes	Industrial Lifting of Heavy Payloads
Ehang EH216-S	485 lbs (219 kg)	21 minutes	Urban Logistics, Transportation, and Management

Dang! These can reach landlock properties easily!!

 

[Dave N]

Drone Model	Max Payload	Max Flight Time (Fully Loaded)	Use Case
Griff Aviation 300	496 lbs (226 kg)	45 minutes	Industrial Lifting of Heavy Payloads
Ehang EH216-S	485 lbs (219 kg)	21 minutes	Urban Logistics, Transportation, and Management

Dang! These can reach landlock properties easily!!

At 250K I doubt they will be a big deal.

 

[RealMuddyboots]

At 250K I doubt they will be a big deal.

Prices will come down fast. If you are an outfitter, this could become easy button for added income. It will on us before anyone can say NFW.

 

[RealMuddyboots]

Then again, this will be money maker for states. Pilot licensing, drone licensing, outfitter license to recover animals, commercial carriage license to carry people. The tax setting is endless. Which might be the real limiting factor.

Then the Feds will step in..

 

[Straight Arrow]

The tax setting is endless. Which might be the real limiting factor.

Check liability insurance rates ... they will make taxes seem like a mere pittance!

 

[Big Sky Guy]

I Was Convicted of Trespassing After Covering Public Land Access Issues on Our Controversial Wyoming Elk Hunt

We helicoptered into otherwise inaccessible public land to hunt elk and highlight landlocked issues in the West. But I made a terrible mistake.

www.outdoorlife.com

Plot twist!

 

[Irrelevant]

I Was Convicted of Trespassing After Covering Public Land Access Issues on Our Controversial Wyoming Elk Hunt

We helicoptered into otherwise inaccessible public land to hunt elk and highlight landlocked issues in the West. But I made a terrible mistake.

www.outdoorlife.com

Plot twist!

JFC, you can't be that dense! If you're going to blow something up, you damn well best be sure, like swear on the heads of your children, that you're in the right. What a friggin' black eye. 35 yards? WHY in the FUDGE would you take that risk?

 

[Big Sky Guy]

JFC, you can't be that dense! If you're going to blow something up, you damn well best be sure, like swear on the heads of your children, that you're in the right. What a friggin' black eye. 35 yards? WHY in the FUDGE would you take that risk?

Yea, super bummed to read it honestly. I think Andrew has always seemed like a stand up guy. We are all human and make mistakes but mistakes are certainly magnified when filmed and viewed a bunch.

I think the unwritten lesson #3 (which I was a bit surprised he didn't discuss) is don't take a shot close to a property boundary if you don't know if you have permission to access. For me that's ~200ish yards with a rifle and probably ~400 with a bow. I've seen well hit animals run pretty far, and even those distances don't guarantee anything but are pretty safe in my experience. He acknowledges his relief that after the shot the animal moved towards public but could have just as easily turned around and ran back on private. Giving the benefit of the doubt he honestly thought it was on public he still knew it was pretty close to private, in which case I would and have passed on the shot. I hunt property boundary areas frequently and always spend time finding land markers that are my "go/no-go" for shot. When I'm unsure I always err on the side of being further on public/property I have access to. Given the description of that quarter section in there I was surprised they were hunting it that close, but maybe that's the only place that the elk were that day IDK, I wasn't there.

 

[Irrelevant]

Yea, super bummed to read it honestly. I think Andrew has always seemed like a stand up guy. We are all human and make mistakes but mistakes are certainly magnified when filmed and viewed a bunch.

I think the unwritten lesson #3 (which I was a bit surprised he didn't discuss) is don't take a shot close to a property boundary if you don't know if you have permission to access. For me that's ~200ish yards with a rifle and probably ~400 with a bow. I've seen well hit animals run pretty far, and even those distances don't guarantee anything but are pretty safe in my experience. He acknowledges his relief that after the shot the animal moved towards public but could have just as easily turned around and ran back on private. Giving the benefit of the doubt he honestly thought it was on public he still knew it was pretty close to private, in which case I would and have passed on the shot. I hunt property boundary areas frequently and always spend time finding land markers that are my "go/no-go" for shot. When I'm unsure I always err on the side of being further on public/property I have access to. Given the description of that quarter section in there I was surprised they were hunting it that close, but maybe that's the only place that the elk were that day IDK, I wasn't there.

Greed, bulls (and bucks) cause people to make bad decisions. Myself included. But I'm not making a living, a career, out of being the "good guy"

 

[Elky Welky]

Very few people have the courage and strength of character to admit when they are wrong or do something wrong. Andrew truly is a stand-up guy. He clearly made a mistake, and taking public responsibility in this way only makes me think more highly of him. I am sad to see him step down from teaching hunter ed. Others could learn from this.

 

[Ben Lamb]

Very few people have the courage and strength of character to admit when they are wrong or do something wrong. Andrew truly is a stand-up guy. He clearly made a mistake, and taking public responsibility in this way only makes me think more highly of him. I am sad to see him step down from teaching hunter ed. Others could learn from this.

This.

 

[Dakotakid]

Curious what the sentence was and if the people think it was just?

I often see people demanding higher penalties, but this guy seems decent enough- did he get a break?

It is hard to agreed that the charges were politically motivated when the video captures the entire crime.

 

[Wild Bill]

Good on him for owning up to it.

Most folks try like hell to sweep stuff like that under the rug and pretend it never happened and move on.

 

[Irrelevant]

Very few people have the courage and strength of character to admit when they are wrong or do something wrong. Andrew truly is a stand-up guy. He clearly made a mistake, and taking public responsibility in this way only makes me think more highly of him. I am sad to see him step down from teaching hunter ed. Others could learn from this.

Sure. But manslaughter is still a crime...

 

[sclancy27]

 

[Kevin W]

Man, that land owner is a prick.