How about an Eastern US hunting issue?

[Hem]

Just tell them you are building it to keep the deer on their property, and it wont cost them a nickel.
Reverse psychology.

 

[Gellar]

How are you going to feel when the shoes are flipped and you own 40 acres in Iowa surrounded on 3 sides by some jack wagon who posts to much on hunttalk?

 

[seeth07]

How are you going to feel when the shoes are flipped and you own 40 acres in Iowa surrounded on 3 sides by some jack wagon who posts to much on hunttalk?

I thought we would be buying it together?

 

[Ben Lamb]

How are you going to feel when the shoes are flipped and you own 40 acres in Iowa surrounded on 3 sides by some jack wagon who posts to much on hunttalk?

*too

 

[WVmike]

“The neighbor with 20 acres harvested so far 23 deer “

How many deer a year can they legally kill?

My question also. Why are they shooting that many deer?

 

[WVmike]

I should add to this that this is Midwest whitetail hunting mindset. Not being able to drive a wheeler or a truck to your dead deer to load it in the back is a BIG DEAL. People around here don't know what it means to pack a deer out a mile. At most they are mostly dragging it 100 yards or less to the nearest trail usually.

It's like that here on the east coast. My father in law ask me how I was going to get a deer out once I shot it where I was going hunting and I said that's what this pack is for. He laughed and said you're stupid.

 

[Bowhuntrben]

At most they are mostly dragging it 100 yards or less to the nearest trail usually.

If I have to go anywhere close to 100 yards, I've done something seriously wrong

 

[Darkside]

If it were me, I would have a talk with them. And focus on filling them out, find out what’s on their minds, and Not being Negative. In a few years these boys might be moving on.
Good luck

 

[Ben Lamb]

Good fences make good neighbors.

The fun part of this quote is that the literal meaning is 180 degrees from Frosts' intended meaning, which was about neighborliness and developing relationships that preclude the need for such fences. He used the juxtaposition of the tired, old saying as a way to draw attention to a better path, or fence, in this instance.

also - deer proof fencing is probably the worst idea I've heard. You shut out animal movement that they need during the other months of the year. This isn't animal husbandry, it's wildlife management.

Good topic, @seeth07. I've got similar going on around here - between the subdivisions and losing available acres, houses being built tight against public land boundaries, pushing people out, etc.

I'd love to see a map comparing hunter density as well. The western only boys would flip their shit beyond belief in how tightly packed hunters are once you get into the wetness.

 

[seeth07]

Good topic, @seeth07. I've got similar going on around here - between the subdivisions and losing available acres, houses being built tight against public land boundaries, pushing people out, etc.

The basic of the topic really just boils down to being a good neighbor so I think you hit that one right on the head. For me it isn't subdivisions but rather farming corporations that are buying acreage and clear cutting and adding drain tile that take away vast amounts of habitat. I personally am doing what little I can on my own property by promoting good habitat, removing tillable acres and replacing with quality bedding areas, planting native grasses, shrubs and trees, etc.

The deer certainly aren't "mine" and I'm not trying to claim they are. At the same time, there is value to the land I own and when there are actions of a neighbor that impacts that value as well as impacts my personal enjoyment of a place I call home it gets me upset. Even as I try to think about what I should do, being a good neighbor is on my mind as I don't want the situation to get worse.

 

[Ben Lamb]

The deer certainly aren't "mine" and I'm not trying to claim they are. At the same time, there is value to the land I own and when there are actions of a neighbor that impacts that value as well as impacts my personal enjoyment of a place I call home it gets me upset. Even as I try to think about what I should do, being a good neighbor is on my mind as I don't want the situation to get worse.

100% understand where you are coming from and I'd be feeling similarly in your situation.

 

[seeth07]

I'd love to see a map comparing hunter density as well. The western only boys would flip their shit beyond belief in how tightly packed hunters are once you get into the wetness.

I'll take a shot at it. Looking at a 1 square mile section on onX, I have put a dot on every "tower gun stand" I could find. This is near where I live but not very close (15 miles away). This is an area with almost all owners enrolled in QDM and the deer density is extremely high. 5 different landowners would be hunting this square mile. I would bet that at any given moment before hunting season begins there are at least 75-100 living in this square mile. Karl F Bruins on the north end is a 20 acre section for size comparison. Of note there are also 7 houses on this square mile section. Another fun fact - Victor Mueller is selling. 465 acres, asking 3.3 million.

 

[Hem]

The fun part of this quote is that the literal meaning is 180 degrees from Frosts' intended meaning, which was about neighborliness and developing relationships that preclude the need for such fences. He used the juxtaposition of the tired, old saying as a way to draw attention to a better path, or fence, in this instance.

also - deer proof fencing is probably the worst idea I've heard. You shut out animal movement that they need during the other months of the year. This isn't animal husbandry, it's wildlife management.

Good topic, @seeth07. I've got similar going on around here - between the subdivisions and losing available acres, houses being built tight against public land boundaries, pushing people out, etc.

I'd love to see a map comparing hunter density as well. The western only boys would flip their shit beyond belief in how tightly packed hunters are once you get into the wetness.

My privacy fence is 100 yds long. I got fed up with the neighbors shit. Touchy/feely conversations were going nowhere. HOA guidelines suggested 50' back. Screw that. Thats giving 50' to the neighbors. I put it up in two days, sat on my deck and had a tall one. Did I mention I actually fenced the back 2.5 acres also to keep their animals out? Deer routinely jump it, by the way.
And lastly, we are on good terms now.
Bummed I disappoint Frost.
Despite his sage wisdom and thoughtfulness I rather doubt he fathomed the modern world that exists today.

 

[seeth07]

but rather farming corporations that are buying acreage and clear cutting and adding drain tile that take away vast amounts of habitat.

example of this. Most current onX satelite image:


just three years ago, I've circled in purple some wetland areas that are now gone due to tilling that went in near or at those locations:

 

[Ben Lamb]

My privacy fence is 100 yds long. I got fed up with the neighbors shit. Touchy/feely conversations were going nowhere. HOA guidelines suggested 50' back. Screw that. Thats giving 50' to the neighbors. I put it up in two days, sat on my deck and had a tall one. Did I mention I actually fenced the back 2.5 acres also to keep their animals out? Deer routinely jump it, by the way.
And lastly, we are on good terms now.
Bummed I disappoint Frost.
Despite his sage wisdom and thoughtfulness I rather doubt he fathomed the modern world that exists today.

Everyone disappoints Robert Frost. It's okay. I still love you.

 

[Ben Lamb]

My privacy fence is 100 yds long. I got fed up with the neighbors shit. Touchy/feely conversations were going nowhere. HOA guidelines suggested 50' back. Screw that. Thats giving 50' to the neighbors. I put it up in two days, sat on my deck and had a tall one. Did I mention I actually fenced the back 2.5 acres also to keep their animals out? Deer routinely jump it, by the way.
And lastly, we are on good terms now.
Bummed I disappoint Frost.
Despite his sage wisdom and thoughtfulness I rather doubt he fathomed the modern world that exists today.

Also, *neighbors, *that's

 

[Hem]

Everyone disappoints Robert Frost. It's okay. I still love you.

Haha...im running errands...miles to go before I sleep.