I have been shooting a few 3-D archery shoots this spring, but todays shoot totally kicked my ass...lol. I just wondering how extreme the targets are set up at other shoots if you go to them..... This shoot was held in rims along a ridge...most all the targets might as well been steel cause if you missed you was hitting a rock and ruining an arrow. Raccoons, turkeys, rockchuck, wolverine, bobcat targets out at 35-40 yds, 1 mnt goat target about 35 yds on the edge of a cliff that if you missed your arrow was going to fly a good hundred or more yds down the ridge into la-la land. The biggest target there was the goat, no elk, caribou, buffallo or any of the bigger targets I am use to seeing at shoots. Local archery shop sponsored the trophys, I can see why, hes going to make a killing selling arrows to all the misfortunute...lol. One target, a bad release at a bobcat@35 yds, clipped my coat sleeve(was fuggin cold and windy) and I drove an arrow into a sandstone bluff about 4 inchs....lol. I seen a group of traditional guys snapping arrows at targets like they were trying to gather kindling to start a fire, latter on in the course I seen they had completely ignored the rules and was shooting where they wanted too...lol, can't say I blame them it was a killer.... I wish I had pics of a few of the targets, it was cool, but frigin tougher then any shoot I have been to, like a whole different league. I think my uncle was the only guy to turn in a score card in the unlimited class before we left...to many embarrased like myself to turn it in....lol.