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Elkgunner, I could give a rats ass about most of the things you say about me but when it come's to trying to tear me down by bringing up racism it really show's how desparate you are to discredit anyone they doesn't share you view's.


Sorry to burst your bubble Elkgunner but color isn't something I think about ,maybe a family reunion picture is in order LMAO Good try Gunner but that just won't fly.

Al Sharpton is an Moron ,that comes from my Black friends and family as well as the white one's.
It's my view of him and it's no different then my view of Michael Moore.Both moron's in my book.


Come on Gunner ------first Michael Moore now Al Sharpton OH MY GOSH


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Is it against the law to be racist?

I think Sharpton is a kook... Oh no does that make me a racist too? I think Kerry is a kook... So I guess I hate blacks and white christians... Oh well. Gota hate something. I think gunner and IT are kooks too... :rolleyes:

Speaking of hatred... What is it that you two hate so much? Is it something about public lands ranchers? I guess thats ok to hate them in your case's... Because we know you're not racists!
 
Sorry guys but a Cuban is a cuban, a Black man is Black, A Mexican is a mexican, White `s are white, nothing racist about those TRUE statements! if i say illegals people call me a racist! if i say Mexican i` am called a racist! Its all Bullshit to cover up the truth.
 
CJ,

You are all over the map, some you label by country, some you label by color. What are you going to call a white Cuban??? What will you call a black Mexican?? Or a white Mexican???

Your simple little categories/labels will fall apart and fail you.
 
Al sharpton is a kook and a moron, just like jesse jackson, and in that same catagory, I will throw the clintons , the kennedys and a few others.

Elkgunner, you should really stick to whats being said a little more, your the one who brought up raceism not MD, but like most liberials when they find they cant get there way in a debate they always play the race card. Its one of those feel good comments.

Too many people play the race card when there isnt even one close.

Here in AZ we deal with the idiots that play the race card on a daily basis.
let me give you some examples:

cop pulls over a guy for speeding or bad tail light, well since this guy is mexican he plays the race card.

US citizens are trying to protect thier boarders, but due to the vast amount of illegals being mexican again we are racist.

Cops go bust some crack house down town and becuase they do this down town and its a blacks house, he plays the race card.

American Citizens are tired of having there tax's raised and insurance raised by illigal aliens not to mention all the benis they are being given to illegals,we try to pass laws to protect what is ours and this turns into a race issue.

We dont want illegal alliens to have driver licence and resident status in our state but due to most are mexican they play the race card.

Funny thing in AZ most the minority is the white amercan male, however you dont see us playing the race card.


Elkgunner I come to SI on occasion but not very much, and since you have been here I see how you put words into other peoples mouths . twist what people say etc. Not only have you yet to stay on topic on anything you twist things so much that they sound goofy. I can figure out if your playing with people or really serious.
In my opinion if your really serious, you just gave a whole new meaning to the conspiracy therory, and those little black helo's should be apearing pretty soon in your neck of the woods.

Even the political spin doctors arent as good as you, I think if they new how much you could spin something you would probally have a full time job with any liberal group of your choice.

Delw
 
Who is calling who a Moron???? :rolleyes:

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Isn't that kind of the "pot calling the kettle BLACK"? :D
 
I'd love to hear MD's comments on Sharpton's speech, and why she chooses to ridicule him and the Democrats for speaking in Boston.

I will even make it easy, and post the transcript.

SHARPTON: Thank you.

Tonight I want to address my remarks in two parts.

One, I'm honored to address the delegates here.

Last Friday, I had the experience in Detroit of hearing President George Bush make a speech. And in the speech, he asked certain questions. I hope he's watching tonight. I would like to answer your questions, Mr. President.

(APPLAUSE)

To the chairman, our delegates, and all that are assembled, we're honored and glad to be here tonight.

SHARPTON: I'm glad to be joined by supporters and friends from around the country. I'm glad to be joined by my family, Kathy, Dominique, who will be 18, and Ashley.

We are here 228 years after right here in Boston we fought to establish the freedoms of America. The first person to die in the Revolutionary War is buried not far from here, a Black man from Barbados, named Crispus Attucks.

(APPLAUSE)

Forty years ago, in 1964, Fannie Lou Hamer and the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party stood at the Democratic convention in Atlantic City fighting to preserve voting rights for all America and all Democrats, regardless of race or gender.

Hamer's stand inspired Dr. King's march in Selma, which brought about the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

Twenty years ago, Reverend Jesse Jackson stood at the Democratic National Convention in San Francisco, again, appealing to the preserve those freedoms.

Tonight, we stand with those freedoms at risk and our security as citizens in question.

SHARPTON: I have come here tonight to say, that the only choice we have to preserve our freedoms at this point in history is to elect John Kerry the president of the United States.

(APPLAUSE)

I stood with both John Kerry and John Edwards on over 30 occasions during the primary season. I not only debated them, I watched them, I observed their deeds, I looked into their eyes. I am convinced that they are men who say what they mean and mean what they say.

(APPLAUSE)

I'm also convinced that at a time when a vicious spirit in the body politic of this country that attempts to undermine America's freedoms -- our civil rights, and civil liberties -- we must leave this city and go forth and organize this nation for victory for our party and John Kerry and John Edwards in November.

(APPLAUSE)

And let me quickly say, this is not just about winning an election. It's about preserving the principles on which this very nation was founded.

Look at the current view of our nation worldwide as a results of our unilateral foreign policy. We went from unprecedented international support and solidarity on September 12, 2001, to hostility and hatred as we stand here tonight. We can't survive in the world by ourselves.

(APPLAUSE)

How did we squander this opportunity to unite the world for democracy and to commit to a global fight against hunger and disease?

SHARPTON: We did it with a go-it-alone foreign policy based on flawed intelligence. We were told that we were going to Iraq because there were weapons of mass destruction. We've lost hundreds of soldiers. We've spent $200 billion dollars at a time when we had record state deficits. And when it became clear that there were no weapons, they changed the premise for the war and said: No, we went because of other reasons.

If I told you tonight, "Let's leave the Fleet Center, we're in danger," and when you get outside, you ask me, Reverend Al, "What is the danger?" and I say, "It don't matter. We just needed some fresh air," I have misled you and we were misled.

(APPLAUSE)

We are also faced with the prospect of in the next four years that two or more of the Supreme Court Justice seats will become available. This year we celebrated the anniversary of Brown v. the Board of Education.

(APPLAUSE)

SHARPTON: This court has voted five to four on critical issues of women's rights and civil rights. It is frightening to think that the gains of civil and women rights and those movements in the last century could be reversed if this administration is in the White House in these next four years.

(APPLAUSE)

I suggest to you tonight that if George Bush had selected the court in '54, Clarence Thomas would have never got to law school.

(APPLAUSE)

This is not about a party. This is about living up to the promise of America. The promise of America says we will guarantee quality education for all children and not spend more money on metal detectors than computers in our schools.

(APPLAUSE)

The promise of America guarantees health care for all of its citizens and doesn't force seniors to travel to Canada to buy prescription drugs they can't afford here at home.

(APPLAUSE)

SHARPTON: The promise of America provides that those who work in our health care system can afford to be hospitalized in the very beds they clean up every day.

The promise of America is that government does not seek to regulate your behavior in the bedroom, but to guarantee your right to provide food in the kitchen.

(APPLAUSE)

The issue of government is not to determine who may sleep together in the bedroom, it's to help those that might not be eating in the kitchen.

(APPLAUSE)

The promise of America that we stand for human rights, whether it's fighting against slavery in the Sudan, where right now Joe Madison and others are fasting, around what is going on in the Sudan; AIDS in Lesotho; a police misconduct in this country.

SHARPTON: The promise of America is one immigration policy for all who seek to enter our shores, whether they come from Mexico, Haiti or Canada, there must be one set of rules for everybody.

(APPLAUSE)

We cannot welcome those to come and then try and act as though any culture will not be respected or treated inferior. We cannot look at the Latino community and preach "one language." No one gave them an English test before they sent them to Iraq to fight for America.

(APPLAUSE)

The promise of America is that every citizen vote is counted and protected, and election schemes do not decide the election.

It, to me, is a glaring contradiction that we would fight, and rightfully so, to get the right to vote for the people in the capital of Iraq in Baghdad, but still don't give the federal right to vote for the people in the capital of the United States, in Washington, D.C.

(APPLAUSE)

SHARPTON: Mr. President, as I close, Mr. President, I heard you say Friday that you had questions for voters, particularly African- American voters. And you asked the question: Did the Democratic Party take us for granted? Well, I have raised questions. But let me answer your question.

You said the Republican Party was the party of Lincoln and Frederick Douglass. It is true that Mr. Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation, after which there was a commitment to give 40 acres and a mule.

That's where the argument, to this day, of reparations starts. We never got the 40 acres. We went all the way to Herbert Hoover, and we never got the 40 acres.

SHARPTON: We didn't get the mule. So we decided we'd ride this donkey as far as it would take us.

(APPLAUSE)

Mr. President, you said would we have more leverage if both parties got our votes, but we didn't come this far playing political games. It was those that earned our vote that got our vote. We got the Civil Rights Act under a Democrat. We got the Voting Rights Act under a Democrat. We got the right to organize under Democrats.

(APPLAUSE)

SHARPTON: Mr. President, the reason we are fighting so hard, the reason we took Florida so seriously, is our right to vote wasn't gained because of our age. Our vote was soaked in the blood of martyrs, soaked in the blood of good men (inaudible) soaked in the blood of four little girls in Birmingham. This vote is sacred to us.

(APPLAUSE)

This vote can't be bargained away.

(APPLAUSE)

This vote can't be given away.

(APPLAUSE)

Mr. President, in all due respect, Mr. President, read my lips: Our vote is not for sale.

(APPLAUSE)

SHARPTON: And there's a whole generation of young leaders that have come forward across this country that stand on integrity and stand on their traditions, those that have emerged with John Kerry and John Edwards as partners, like Greg Meeks, like Barack Obama, like our voter registration director, Marjorie Harris, like those that are in the trenches.

And we come with strong family values. Family values is not just those with two-car garages and a retirement plan. Retirement plans are good. But family values also are those who had to make nothing stretch into something happening, who had to make ends meet.

I was raised by a single mother who made a way for me. She used to scrub floors as a domestic worker, put a cleaning rag in her pocketbook and ride the subways in Brooklyn so I would have food on the table.

SHARPTON: But she taught me as I walked her to the subway that life is about not where you start, but where you're going. That's family values.

(APPLAUSE)

And I wanted somebody in my community -- I wanted to show that example. As I ran for president, I hoped that one child would come out of the ghetto like I did, could look at me walk across the stage with governors and senators and know they didn't have to be a drug dealer, they didn't have to be a hoodlum, they didn't have to be a gangster, they could stand up from a broken home, on welfare, and they could run for president of the United States.

(APPLAUSE)

As you know, I live in New York. I was there September 11th when that despicable act of terrorism happened.

SHARPTON: A few days after, I left home, my family had taken in a young man who lost his family. And as they gave comfort to him, I had to do a radio show that morning. When I got there, my friend James Entome (ph) said, "Reverend, we're going to stop at a certain hour and play a song, synchronized with 990 other stations."

I said, "That's fine."

He said, "We're dedicating it to the victims of 9/11."

I said, "What song are you playing?"

He said "America the Beautiful." The particular station I was at, the played that rendition song by Ray Charles.

As you know, we lost Ray a few weeks ago, but I sat there that morning and listened to Ray sing through those speakers, "Oh beautiful for spacious skies, for amber waves of grain, for purple mountains' majesty across the fruited plain."

And it occurred to me as I heard Ray singing, that Ray wasn't singing about what he knew, because Ray had been blind since he was a child. He hadn't seen many purple mountains. He hadn't seen many fruited plains. He was singing about what he believed to be.

Mr. President, we love America, not because all of us have seen the beauty all the time.

SHARPTON: But we believed if we kept on working, if we kept on marching, if we kept on voting, if we kept on believing, we would make America beautiful for everybody.

Starting in November, let's make America beautiful again.

Thank you. And God bless you.
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ELkgunner, maybe your should quote linda rohnstad and barbara strisand as well. seems they are all the same but again those women are white and you couldnt play the race card now could you.

Hell he stated the race issue first not MD or you. my bad. ;)


Delw
 
This is not about a party. This is about living up to the promise of America. The promise of America says we will guarantee quality education for all children and not spend more money on metal detectors than computers in our schools.
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wow I guess he is against guns also. right elk gunner,

now this will sound raxist when in fact it isnt.

Look at why we have metal detectors in our schools its to protect those children that want to learn.
Those kids that want to learn are white black yellow etc, if you look at most of the gangs in this country you will see that MOST (not all) are black and mexican.
it has alot to do with drugs as well. turf wars so to speak(mainly in inner cities) only recently did it start spreadiung out to rural america.

HE is also asking for resitution (from the old slave days)if he wasnt a raceist why did he bring that up? he wasnt a slave he wasnt back there during that time frame. basically he is asking that the goverment just give people money(black people).

Al sharpton. jeese jackson are the biggest racist out there and you have the balls to call MD a raceist LMAO


Delw
 
It is funny how MD ridiculed the Democrats for allowing the Black Presidential candidate to speak, and yet hasn't been able to say what was wrong with his speech.

And look at the others who haven't been able to find any fault with his speech.

As to Del's comments, I don't think Sharpton was asking for restitiution, just pointing out that Lincoln failed to deliver on his promise to Blacks.

And the 40 Acres and a Mule is a powerful image and clever segue to the Democrat Donkey. Hardly the stuff of a Moron.

After myself and Ithica, I would suggest that Sharpton's speech are the most intelligent words on this page....
 
It is funny how MD ridiculed the Democrats for allowing the Black Presidential candidate to speak, and yet hasn't been able to say what was wrong with his speech.
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I think its funny how you find a way to turn this into a racism issue.. Did for once you ever think maybe she just thinks the guy is a kook like a bunch of others.

Again you were the one who twisted this topic to be more of a raceism topic.

While a mule might be a powerful image a donkey is still just a jackass ;)


Delw
 
But the fact remains, she ridiculed the Democrats for having Sharpton speak, but has found nothing within his speech, as delivered, to warrant calling him a Moron. Obviously she was prejudiced prior to even knowing what he said.

If she hadn't read Rev. Sharpton's speech or heard it, then it can only be attributed to prejudism. If she had read it, she would have reasons as to why he should not have been allowed to speak, and why he was a "moron".
 
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