25-06 w/ 107 HBCs

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Hi all,

I recently purpose built my “Western KS” rifle, which is a standard 25-06 Rem chamber with a 1-7tw barrel.

Here’s the specs on the rifle:

Defiance Classic LH LA, 75° bolt
Shilen 26”, #4 contour, 1-7tw ratchet rifled barrel
Bell and Carlson (also in western KS) rem sporter
Remington 40x trigger
Rem BDL
Leupold VX-R 4-12x40 in PRW2 lows
Weight is 8lbs, 14oz

IMG_2957.jpeg

With mulies and pronghorn from the windiest and flattest region in the country in mind, I knew I needed a flat shooter. The easy answer was 25-06, which is my favorite cartridge.
I also knew I needed a bullet that could flatten an already flat shooting cartridge out even more. I chose the 107 HBC for some soon to be obvious reasons.
My wife won’t eat game shot with lead, and I like the devastating effect Hammers have proven to have in my [limited] testing.

This decision led to a phone call with the always informative Steve Davis of Hammer Bullets, where he said to look at 90gr Hammer Hunter data. I decided to go with H4350 because I have a few pounds of it.

I loaded up a pressure ladder, 9 rounds in 1gr increments. COAL was 3.268 if I’m not mistaken, but don’t quote me on that. I used CCI 200 primers and Hornady brass.

IMG_2909.jpeg

Today, I went to the range and sorted that out. I was hoping to hit 3300, as that would get me around 17” of drop at 400 (my max distance for my own personal ethics).

Here’s my findings:

50gr - 3136 fps
51gr - 3237 fps
52gr - 3262 fps
53gr - 3315 fps
54gr - 3357 fps
55gr - 3462 fps
56gr - 3521 fps
57gr - 3585 fps; bright ejector, primer not flat
58gr - 3612 fps; slight ejector, primer not flat

There was no cratering or flattening of the primers, and cases all look fine. Bolt lift was not stiff either. I will also add that the ejector plunger on this bolt is very strong.

If sighted in at 100, the 56gr load going 3521 fps will drop a little less than 14.5” at Western Kansas altitude (around 3400-3500 ft). It also maintains 1500ft-lbs of energy past 600 yards.

I know not what I’ll be loading for accuracy testing yet, but I have no doubt it’ll shoot well since it has not printed a group above 1 MOA in the short time I’ve had it, testing 5 different loads so far.

Let me know what you all think.



I posted this up on the Hammertime forum, and here’s what I’ve theorized:
This barrel sports “ratchet” rifling, which basically creates less engraving pressure and whatnot for easier cleaning and wind resistance characteristics upon leaving the muzzle. I believe this is also helping achieve higher velocities with less pressure when mixed with the skinny PDR groove valley of the bullets (makes sense in my head):
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I almost tagged you in this, thought you’d enjoy it.

Also, got off the phone with Shilen a second ago and they confirmed what I theorized about pressure. Magic bullet + barrel combo
Somewhat related, my 25PRC (as different from the 257PRC I had built this spring) is about ready to come home and the case capacity is near identical to the 25-06. Should be running in the 36s with the 95gr. HHT and hope to be around 3100 with the 127gr. Running a 20" barrel, so will be interested to see how much that kneecaps velocity.
 
Somewhat related, my 25PRC (as different from the 257PRC I had built this spring) is about ready to come home and the case capacity is near identical to the 25-06. Should be running in the 36s with the 95gr. HHT and hope to be around 3100 with the 127gr. Running a 20" barrel, so will be interested to see how much that kneecaps velocity.
Lookin forward to hearing about that. I’ve thought long and hard about a 25 SST or a 25 PRC as well. I’d go 20” for use with a can.
 
Hi all,

I recently purpose built my “Western KS” rifle, which is a standard 25-06 Rem chamber with a 1-7tw barrel.

Here’s the specs on the rifle:

Defiance Classic LH LA, 75° bolt
Shilen 26”, #4 contour, 1-7tw ratchet rifled barrel
Bell and Carlson (also in western KS) rem sporter
Remington 40x trigger
Rem BDL
Leupold VX-R 4-12x40 in PRW2 lows
Weight is 8lbs, 14oz

View attachment 382110

With mulies and pronghorn from the windiest and flattest region in the country in mind, I knew I needed a flat shooter. The easy answer was 25-06, which is my favorite cartridge.
I also knew I needed a bullet that could flatten an already flat shooting cartridge out even more. I chose the 107 HBC for some soon to be obvious reasons.
My wife won’t eat game shot with lead, and I like the devastating effect Hammers have proven to have in my [limited] testing.

This decision led to a phone call with the always informative Steve Davis of Hammer Bullets, where he said to look at 90gr Hammer Hunter data. I decided to go with H4350 because I have a few pounds of it.

I loaded up a pressure ladder, 9 rounds in 1gr increments. COAL was 3.268 if I’m not mistaken, but don’t quote me on that. I used CCI 200 primers and Hornady brass.

View attachment 382111

Today, I went to the range and sorted that out. I was hoping to hit 3300, as that would get me around 17” of drop at 400 (my max distance for my own personal ethics).

Here’s my findings:

50gr - 3136 fps
51gr - 3237 fps
52gr - 3262 fps
53gr - 3315 fps
54gr - 3357 fps
55gr - 3462 fps
56gr - 3521 fps
57gr - 3585 fps; bright ejector, primer not flat
58gr - 3612 fps; slight ejector, primer not flat

There was no cratering or flattening of the primers, and cases all look fine. Bolt lift was not stiff either. I will also add that the ejector plunger on this bolt is very strong.

If sighted in at 100, the 56gr load going 3521 fps will drop a little less than 14.5” at Western Kansas altitude (around 3400-3500 ft). It also maintains 1500ft-lbs of energy past 600 yards.

I know not what I’ll be loading for accuracy testing yet, but I have no doubt it’ll shoot well since it has not printed a group above 1 MOA in the short time I’ve had it, testing 5 different loads so far.

Let me know what you all think.



I posted this up on the Hammertime forum, and here’s what I’ve theorized:
This barrel sports “ratchet” rifling, which basically creates less engraving pressure and whatnot for easier cleaning and wind resistance characteristics upon leaving the muzzle. I believe this is also helping achieve higher velocities with less pressure when mixed with the skinny PDR groove valley of the bullets (makes sense in my head):
View attachment 382112
Hammers kill stuff. An elephant is dead. mtmuley
 
Roy Weatherby: Bravo!
Yup!
That's keeping right up with my 257 Weatherby with a 100gr NBT and 78.5gr of Ramshot LRT.
Same length barrel, but I'm running the slower 1:10 twist.

I may have to look into one of those Shilen ratchet barrels when I burn this one out.
Or one of the Pac-Nor polygonal rifled barrels.
 
Don’t think I’m satisfied with it yet. Think I will bump down to 54 or 54.5 and try again. SD of 16 and avg of 3467 (5 shots) with 55gr of H4350. #5 definitely could have been me pulling it but who knows. The gun is easily capable of better

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