'24-'25 chukar season

@Irrelevant @TheJason Curious about shooting at quail vs huns and chukar. (Notice I said shooting AT) I shot a ton of quail back day. It could go a box of shells per limit of birds sometimes.

If both all are on flatter terrain, which species is harder to hit?
I find huns are harder to hit, and quail are even harder. But it also matters how much pressure they see, both in terms of hunters and natural aerial predators. The terrain aspect is really what can make chukar so damn hard, because you're constantly about to fall.
 
@Irrelevant @TheJason Curious about shooting at quail vs huns and chukar. (Notice I said shooting AT) I shot a ton of quail back day. It could go a box of shells per limit of birds sometimes.

If both all are on flatter terrain, which species is harder to hit?
Easiest to hardest…

Quail

Huns

Chukar.

Quail aren’t hard to hit. They’re hard to find once on the ground. A flock of 50+ birds are going to give you a few easy shots.

Huns stay in flock formation. Walk up on the point, pick a bird or two to hit on the flush. Once you’ve used to the flushes, hitting a bird or double isn’t hard.

Chukar are terrorist. They’ll send out distant birds to have you empty your gun and then the easy, close birds fly at your feet. They’ll sit quiet after the shooting and send singles once your guard is down. Again, you’ll empty your gun and a few gimmes fly away. I think chukar fly faster off a flush than Huns.

If you look up the speed between Huns and Chukar, it shows Huns at 36 miles an hour and chukar at 50 miles an hour, up to 60 miles an hour downhill. I believe it.

I don’t think any of the birds are hard to kill if you hit them. I’ve been using 7 1/2s and improved cylinder all year. Most of my issues stem from shooting behind birds.
 
This is a bit embarrassing but this pic was 15 years in the making. I'd never chukar hunted until I got my first bird dog, a GSP. She wasn't very good and we didn't have any success until she was 10. Then I got a few years of moderate success. Tucker is 3 and everything you could ask for in a dog (except for more hair on his legs) but my shooting has always been poor. I just get too excited. I can't count the number of times I've gotten 5, but never a full limit of 6, until today... #*^@#* yes!
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Congrats!
 
My two cents worth: on hitting chukars, huns, and quail. IF you can catch chukars on the flats or against a terrain feature that doesn't allow them to fly downhill, they are the easiest thing to hit. However, that doesn't happen very often, in which case once they are going downhill they are the hardest to hit and kill. I would put quail next and huns as the easiest as they are often on flatter ground and not as fast as quail. This is after 20 plus years of chasing these birds with a lab.
 
My two cents worth: on hitting chukars, huns, and quail. IF you can catch chukars on the flats or against a terrain feature that doesn't allow them to fly downhill, they are the easiest thing to hit. However, that doesn't happen very often, in which case once they are going downhill they are the hardest to hit and kill. I would put quail next and huns as the easiest as they are often on flatter ground and not as fast as quail. This is after 20 plus years of chasing these birds with a lab.
My buddy and I were just talking about this last night as we were shooting some
clays. So far they are the only bird (along with Huns) that I’ve ever shot angled severely downhill at. Most other birds are level with you or above. I think that has to mess with our brains and muscle memory.
 
My buddy and I were just talking about this last night as we were shooting some
clays. So far they are the only bird (along with Huns) that I’ve ever shot angled severely downhill at. Most other birds are level with you or above. I think that has to mess with our brains and muscle memory.
It sure is hard to get underneath them on a fast downhill shot
 
My buddy and I were just talking about this last night as we were shooting some
clays. So far they are the only bird (along with Huns) that I’ve ever shot angled severely downhill at. Most other birds are level with you or above. I think that has to mess with our brains and muscle memory.
Not to mention the acceleration due to gravity, 9.8m/second/squared
 
Not to mention the acceleration due to gravity, 9.8m/second/squared
That additional equation must be why my brain can’t hit these dang things. Me being an intellectual, I must be giving my brain too much time for algebra and geometry instead of shooting!

I’ll take whatever excuse I can!
 
That additional equation must be why my brain can’t hit these dang things. Me being an intellectual, I must be giving my brain too much time for algebra and geometry instead of shooting!

I’ll take whatever excuse I can!
Dirty Bastards. Miss Sugar letting me know she's picking up that bird on the way down.
 

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Went out to an old spot but decided to hunt further out than normal.
Didn't see even old sign for the first 1.5 hr. The dog got birdy once but either couldn't pin it down or it was old sign. Today was another beautiful fall day, which means it was perfectly calm, and great for hiking but not great for Tucker to find birds... side note, if it blew half as much in the fall as it does in the spring we'd have a heyday on birds.

Finally got a hard downhill point and I eased in, but that damn birds didn't let me get to within 60 yards before they jumped. No shots fired. I swear I saw where they set, but Tucker couldn't find them, I feel like this could have easily been chalked up to lack of a breeze. The second covey got up even further, maybe 100 yards, at this point we were high enough to get a decent breeze, we located them again and they jumped early again, but this time landed in the brushy bottom, which always grants passing shots once flushed (they fly downhill). With my shooting, they were still pretty safe and I only managed 1 even though they came up as singles passing plenty close. The third covey held like they were supposed to, and I hit with all 3 shots, but had to double up on the second as I only dropped legs and he was locked to sailing, a sure-fire receipt for a lost bird. To my shock and awe, Tucks retrieved both birds to hand! A first.
The upper end of these basins were stellar habitat, so much more cover for the birds to hold in with a gentle enough slope you didn't have to watch your feet as you walked into the point.
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Decided I should start heading back and discovered a sweet little tucked away hanging basin that I want to come backpacking into early in the spring. There's even a spring fed water tank the Wenatchee Sportsman built.
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Went an expected while without birds as we walked with the wind back down the next draw. But when we dropped off the top enough we lost the tailwind and Tucks made an unconvincing point, relocating a few times, pretty sure there are birds somewhere here Dad, I'm just not quite sure where. They held tight and I dropped two. Unfortunately, #1 went down into a talus field and the dog never caught the scent. If still alive they crawl in the rocks and are incredibly hard to find.
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Tucker found the other one and pointed it, stayed up high, and told him to "fetch it. Dead bird." he didn't move, locked solid. I get yelling "get the bird" eventually he broke and the GD bird flushed! Immediately locked up and sailed out of sight, never to be seen again. That one's on me. The rest of the trip out was an enjoyable walk down canyon on a well used elk trail. 9 miles, 2200 vert, 4.5 hrs. No bird pics... :(

Top 5 day of the year, just a shitton of fun.
looks like great country
 
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