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  1. ImBillT

    UTAH PRICE INCREASE

    While I completely agree that you should be applying for hunts instead of points just from a draw odds and intelligence perspective, some people already have tags that conflict, some people have family vacations etc. and some people are just dumb. I applied for hunts, not points, almost...
  2. ImBillT

    UTAH PRICE INCREASE

    That would help because a lot of people just don’t have $10k to float. Something else that would likely help more than anything is to stop selling points only, and you can’t return the tag without losing points. If you want a point, you risk drawing, and if you draw, you lose your points. If...
  3. ImBillT

    NM applications

    I just figured I’d check my email next Wednesday at 9:30 mountain time.
  4. ImBillT

    NM applications

    They will email you early the day of the draw if you’re successful. No need to log in 100 times.
  5. ImBillT

    NM applications

    But I get those emails all year long.
  6. ImBillT

    NM applications

    Well the published date is the 23rd. Most years they end up releasing exactly one week early. Some years they have gone up to the published date. When you say you heard it might be the 23rd, do you have some inside info, or was it just someone quoting the published date? I have no inside...
  7. ImBillT

    Ladder Test for finding powder charge

    I don’t think you need to do a ladder test for what you’re doing. The effects of being on a velocity node are linear, and that’s about barrel angle when the bullet exits. Your drop as range increases is not linear. As range increases, velocity spread is dramatically more important than being on...
  8. ImBillT

    Ladder Test for finding powder charge

    I’m not trying to school him on practical shooting. Load tuning, isn’t practical shooting. He has proven that he has all the important pieces of killing trophy animals figured out and figured out well. The purpose of a ladder test is to identify the velocity windows that give less vertical...
  9. ImBillT

    Ladder Test for finding powder charge

    Statistics definitely need to be considered, and the less accurate a rifle is, the larger the sample size has to be to show the difference between tuning and random shot distribution, and that gets ridiculous fast. If a rifle isn’t shooting really really well, I’m not likely to bother trying to...
  10. ImBillT

    Ladder Test for finding powder charge

    I would consider th 6.5CM to be a more accurate rifle than 1 MOA, but not the other three, only because I don’t see data that suggests otherwise, and none of those groups look like what you would see in a ladder test from a .25-.5MOA rifle. Obviously you weren’t shooting a ladder test. I would...
  11. ImBillT

    Ladder Test for finding powder charge

    I’m not sure you did anything wrong. It’s just that it isn’t a large effect. It’s not going to make huge differences, and if anything else could be making the groups large, you’re not going to see those differences. I’m going to work toward a max load any time I shoot a new bullet weight or...
  12. ImBillT

    Ladder Test for finding powder charge

    The effects that show up in a ladder test shouldn’t be very prominent at 300yds, but they’re not large effects anyway, and aren’t obvious in a gun that isn’t shooting very small groups already. But hey, maybe a little more than 1MOA. Not much more. I would say that most of my hunting rifles were...
  13. ImBillT

    Ladder Test for finding powder charge

    Your entire ladder test should be sub MOA or very close to it. If not, the water is too murky to be confident in what you’re looking at.
  14. ImBillT

    Ladder Test for finding powder charge

    I just know that you’re very enthusiastic about very old rifles. Which is totally cool. Am I not allowed to be surprised by your tinkering with an IBS or NBRSA style benchrest rifle? I have no idea what you shoot beyond what you tend to discuss here. Any expression of surprise was not intended...
  15. ImBillT

    NM applications

    Likely the 15th for draw results. Refund times vary from person to person but usually within 7 days or less has been my personal experience.
  16. ImBillT

    Ladder Test for finding powder charge

    Based on what you typically shoot, I would be surprised to hear that you spent a decent amount of time behind the sort of rifles this sort of tuning was pioneered in. And from my experience, although I don’t think it’s worthless, I think the effects are small enough that they aren’t going to...
  17. ImBillT

    Ladder Test for finding powder charge

    Well the whole point of being on a node is that velocity spread doesn’t change poi. You should be able to go quite a bit in either direction without much vertical shift if you found a node. However, +- .5gr isn’t small. That could push you off a node on medium sized cartridges. But being off a...
  18. ImBillT

    Ladder Test for finding powder charge

    I have, but it takes a pretty accurate rifle to begin with, and I’m not sure most people doing it are doing it right. My guess is that you haven’t done it with a rifle with a 20” barrel that weighs 5lbs or more, on a rifle with a 3” wide flat forend using a cartridge that barrel recoils. I see...
  19. ImBillT

    Still Hunting Mule Deer in the Mountain West?

    Cover a lot of ground on foot when hunting anything. I’m not sure it quite qualifies as still hunting, but it’s not pure spot and stalk. I like to glass morning and evening and move during the day when they’re bedding. I’m more likely to stick to glassing only if I have a target buck that I...
  20. ImBillT

    In your opinion what 3-5 rifle calibers are best for Mule Deer?

    Anything that shoots flat with a 130gr bullet or heavier is going to put you in territory that is hard to beat. It can be done lobbing bullets in slow and it can be done with lighter bullets, but flat makes it easier and bigger bullets are never a bad thing. A .30cal 190 leaving at 2975fps sure...
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