Thats everyone's plan but most just talk about it in the interweb......
I have lived in 4 western states in the last 8 years, so I'd like to think I'm not just all talk haha
Wyoming is actually not to bad for nr except elk and that depends how you look at it. Regular deer and antelope is around 400 bucks if you spring for the special around 1300
General montana nr deer tag is 800 ish so really not far off and now with utahs increases who knows what's going to happen.
I am starting to lean more torwards @Treeshark and starting to think the eplus system in new mexico could work in all of the states out west
No I don't think it's too bad and that's why I still buy tags. But I also don't want tags to be so expensive that most think it isn't worth it... I've been blessed and would still buy tags at a much higher price and that would improve my draw odds, but I just don't think that's right. What I do instead is apply for 10ish states so I can still spend the money and get more tags, but the higher prices don't totally make it unreachable for others.
Isn't eplus just giving tags to landowners? How does this help?
I don't particularly hate NM where its a random draw, but this would make planning much more difficult for me lol with points I can plan out and have a decent plan where I'd be hunting each year. If every state was random, some years I could end up with multiple tags, and other years nothing...
Im not sure. But its disappointing to start at the ground as a NR - because theres a glutton of high point holders.
How does south dakota do NR elk hunting?
If high point holders got tags instead of just buying points, there would be fewer tags for low point holders... It would take longer to draw on average. It would not improve the of those with few points.
Imagine one guy that hunts for 30 years in a zone that takes 5 points. Guy 1 buys points all the time and only hunts every 15 years. He takes two tags. Guy 2 instead uses points. He gets 6 tags in that same time. That's 4 fewer tags going to those that don't have that many points.
I agree it sucks to not have points. I only have 2 wyoming elk points currently. But I can draw fairly soon, partailly thanks to all these guys that just collect points and don't hunt. If they all were trying to get tags, I'd be further back in the line...
SD doesn't allow non-resident (assume this is rhetorical), wbut as a non-resident, I don't like it, but also didn;t particularly agree when I was a resident. But considering the herd size is less than 10% of that in Wyoming and less than 3% of that in Colorado, it really doesn't surprise me much. Even resident tags can take a couple decades so if they had the same policy as Wyoming it'd be atrocious. If your suggestion is some sort of reciprocity, do you think other states should not allow Wyoming residents to hunt their wilderness without a guide? Quite the slippery slope that I think would end up hurting hunting for anyone hunting out of their home state.
Oh man... happy hour after work and a few beers at home and not I'm typing novels on HT lol
