Well. I am going to vent a little. Out of all my trail camera's I find my 5 spypoint Force 10's that I bought two years ago are all dead except 1. Two have blue screen of death and the other two just will not turn on. I had decent luck with earlier models of spypoint but seems they are getting worse. They will never get my business again. I have long memory. The standout camera all these years have always been bushnell trophy camera. I have some for 7-8 years and some newer, they are the most bullet proof.