More trouble in the legislature

Bonasababy

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I believe these bills don't have a chance but you never know when a bill is tabled for potential later action, in MN's broken legislature they sometimes get added back in and voted on in the dead of night in the final hours of the session with no public awareness or testimony.

HF 40--This revokes the requirement to require double fencing so CWD infected deer inside captive deer fences can't touch noses with wild deer outside the fence, and prevents the state from killing or seizing any deer inside such fences if the "farmer" is caught violating rules. MN DNR says 10 deer farms still have not complied with new rules enacted when democrates shoved them through a few years ago to finally start to control the captive deer herd problem, which has been linked to most of MN's wild deer CWD problems.

Primary author is John Burkel, Badger. Dawn Gillman, St. Paul also signed on as an author. Both republicans.

SF 956--This bill favors poachers or lawbreakers of all kinds by greatly restricting the ability of Conservsation officers to enter lands to cite, fine, seize guns or angling gear and more where game or fish laws are being broken. The proponents claim it's a constitutional violation they are trying to correct-- but these authorities have been in place and survived constitutional challenges over the years. Conservation officers testimony has made it clear this would completely gut their ability to enforce game and fish laws.

It appears to me the real goal of this legislation is the same as the house file--to limit the ability of officials to regulate or punish deer farms.

Steve Porter, a very vocal anti government deer farmer has been pushing this. The main author--Republican Senator Steve Green from Fosston--is a close ally of Porters. As is another Bill author, Republican Senator Nathan Wesenberg from Little Falls.

Steve Green is also the author of another bill--Senate File 980--that would revoke the authority of conservation officers unless they work under the direction of the local sheriff.

I don't expect these to go anywhere but folks might note who is pushing them. Those names continually come up in desires to protect violators and gut game and fish laws and protections, acquistions of public land for hunting and fishing, and more.
 
Steve Porter and his Hunters for Hunters group might be the worst thing to happen to conservation efforts in Minnesota. He does everything under the guise of being a sheriff and therefore knowing the law better than anyone else. What he fails to mention is that he was sheriff for a year or so after taking over for the previous sheriff when he retired, and then lost the election 62-36.

Senator Wesenberg is one of his closest ally in the legislature.
 
on a good note, the Environment and Natural Resources omnibus bill passed both chambers in special session yesterday and is on the governor's desk. In it is another year of crossbow hunting to allow the DNR to finalize a study on the impacts of legalizing them. Also in it is the elimination of the shotgun zone, allowing counties to opt out by passing an ordinance after notice and public hearing.
 
It's helpful to look at upper right hand corner of post to determine what state to which the post is referring and where residing. There have been so many bad bills in Montana, Utah, Washington, and Nevada legislatures that it becomes confusing unless the state is identified.
 
It's helpful to look at upper right hand corner of post to determine what state to which the post is referring and where residing. There have been so many bad bills in Montana, Utah, Washington, and Nevada legislatures that it becomes confusing unless the state is identified.
well, this is the Minnesota sub forum, so I would be talking about Minnesota. But I get what you're saying, because there's been plenty of bad legislation everywhere.
 
on a good note, the Environment and Natural Resources omnibus bill passed both chambers in special session yesterday and is on the governor's desk. In it is another year of crossbow hunting to allow the DNR to finalize a study on the impacts of legalizing them. Also in it is the elimination of the shotgun zone, allowing counties to opt out by passing an ordinance after notice and public hearing.

Good note, bad note.. depends on ones views.

Crossbows during archery is a bad thing in my view. Could take or leave the shotgun zone thing. Would rather not continually make it easier to kill deer when technology advancements under the existing regs do that more than enough but i can identify that slugs suck, have been difficult to purchase in recent times, and aren't the most kid or recoil sensitive folk friendly option. I'd use my (not remotely traditional) muzzleloader before my rifled barrel 870 if I hunted more in slug zones.
 
Good note, bad note.. depends on ones views.

Crossbows during archery is a bad thing in my view. Could take or leave the shotgun zone thing. Would rather not continually make it easier to kill deer when technology advancements under the existing regs do that more than enough but i can identify that slugs suck, have been difficult to purchase in recent times, and aren't the most kid or recoil sensitive folk friendly option. I'd use my (not remotely traditional) muzzleloader before my rifled barrel 870 if I hunted more in slug zones.

There's no reason to exclude crossbows from archery season.

And there's plenty of deer in much of the state to the point it needs to be easier to harvest them. Increasing harvest in a meaningful manner has been difficult, decreasing the harvest to raise population in lower density areas is easy.
 
There's no reason to exclude crossbows from archery season.

And there's plenty of deer in much of the state to the point it needs to be easier to harvest them. Increasing harvest in a meaningful manner has been difficult, decreasing the harvest to raise population in lower density areas is easy.
No, decreasing in lower density areas is harder because of the crossbow law.

The success rates with crossbow are very high in comparison with traditional archery as well. Crossbow harvest has increased over muzzleloader now.

Whether that's a problem depends on perspective I suppose, but a growing number of people think it is.
 
No, decreasing in lower density areas is harder because of the crossbow law.

The success rates with crossbow are very high in comparison with traditional archery as well. Crossbow harvest has increased over muzzleloader now.

Whether that's a problem depends on perspective I suppose, but a growing number of people think it is.
Harvest rate in an area is dictated by the number of antlerless tags given out. Decrease that number, and harvest decreases, and population generally increases (assuming decent habitat). Crossbows have no affect on that strategy.

Archery success rate didn't significantly change with the inclusion of crossbows. It's still around 20%, where it's been since 2018. The harvest didn't significantly change either, regardless of what the "archery purists" try to put out there. The harvest and success rate SHOULD be higher than that, considering archery hunters have 3.5 MONTHS to fill a tag.

Muzzleloader success rate is always around that percentage too, but fluctuates more with weather since it's so late in the year.
 
We are surrounded with states that have better whitetail hunting than us. I know lots of Minnesotans who’d love to hunt deer (and do) in the dakotas, ia, or wi. Not so much on residents of those states wanting to come here. It’s not because they have better habitat. But by all means, let’s keep degrading the quality of our hunts.
 
No, decreasing in lower density areas is harder because of the crossbow law.

The success rates with crossbow are very high in comparison with traditional archery as well. Crossbow harvest has increased over muzzleloader now.

Whether that's a problem depends on perspective I suppose, but a growing number of people think it is.
once again one tag one deer but i buy three
 

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