i finally broke down and bought a bug tamer suit thursday and when i got to the club those guys told me that is to dam hot all you need is one of these. they showed me this little butane operated machine called a thermacell.it seems the deer cant smell them, i had mine on everytime i saw deer this week.one day i even hunted in shorts and a t shirt and didnt get bit 1 time. these things are 27 bucks at eckerd drugs and i heard wal mart has them, if you hunt with mosquitos still out you have to have one of these things, i figured it wouldnt work but i tried it anyway,, the bug tamer still has the tags on it.