I couldn’t agree more. Both Kifaru and Stone Glacier we’re eliminated rather early in my search, as it quickly became apparent that all the add-ons necessary for those packs to have what packs from Mystery Ranch, Seek Outside and Exo already come with would make them far more expensive. I can see why Kifaru does this as their packs would be insanely heavy if you add the weight of all the extras to an already heavy pack. But Stone Glacier would still be in the ballpark weight-wise.
I am now down to Mystery Ranch Beartooth and Seek Outside Lanner in my search, as Exo wasn’t very responsive or enthusiastic about earning my business when I contacted them.
I’m sure I’ll love whichever I end up with.
When you say add on are you talking about a spotter pocket? There are several bags where that is built in (Sky 6900 for example)
Looking at what guides and others that spend considerable time under one, it appears Kifaru, SG or Barney’s are at the top in no particular order. Personally, I’d probably pass on a Barney’s unless I was hauling moose quarters and Peninsula brown bears for a living, which I’m not.
After that, there’s a whole bunch of packs that are very nice and will certainly do the job.
They are ALL better than the $40 pack frames we all grew up using.
I remember thinking my Kelty red cloud was the bees knees circa 2002.
I liked my Kuiu Icon more than either of the new MR Marshalls I’ve had and got rid of. It was lighter, carried weight better and retails for less.
MR makes a damn solid, if not overbuilt, pack but they just aren’t for me. There are excessive straps, webbing, pockets etc. If you like that stuff though, I wouldn’t worry about the quality from being made overseas. They really are solidly built.