Wasn't my pickup or my quote, so I guess we'll never know for sure. I have no reason to believe my neighbor was lying to me, so I believe her. You don't know or have any reason to trust me though, so I get it. It certainly sounds insane. Keep in mind that a tailgate replacement for these also involves replacing fiber optic cables for the camera, or at least it did in her case. I assume that contributes significantly to the cost.
3/4 ton 4x4 recommendations
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No sir. Seven thousand dollars for a new, OEM tailgate with camera.
Nick87
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Is this neighbor in the room with us now?
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The only reason I own a truck bigger than a half ton is because I haul water. If I didn’t haul 10k pounds once a week I would just buy a half ton and put a really nice set of air bags on the back. Get a built in air compressor and a toggle switch. The cost and rough ride just doesn’t pencil out to me
Nick87
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Had em on the last half ton. Probably will on this one too.
elevatorman
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If your going with Ford skip the 3/4 ton and go straight to a 350 single rear wheel. No drawbacks, all gain. And now there is much more differences between the 2 then there ever was. Fords putting a smaller lighter duty transmission in the 250s....
I Googled it. Here's a couple results. Sure does seem like they got screwed. Plenty of room for any parts like latches and badging.
- Complete tailgate with camera hole (painted): Pre-painted options with a camera hole are available for around $995. This price will vary based on the specific paint color.
- Mopar camera kit: A separate, genuine Mopar camera kit can cost around $1,740.00 from MoparGenuineParts. This is the price for the camera system only, not including the tailgate itself.
- Paint and labor: Expect to pay extra for the paint job if you don't buy a pre-painted unit. The cost of paint and labor can range from $400 to $600 or more.
It was covered by insurance, so it was them that got screwed, if someone did, not her. Regardless, even your numbers are absolutely insane for a tailgate, in my opinion. $3000+ is nuts.
No.
She's definitely not the type to be conversing with strangers on a hunting forum.WapitiBob
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Tailgate, rear bumper, and cheap trailer hitch cost the other guys insurance $4500 on my 2020 f150.
Nick87
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I'd imagine that tailgate costs a bit more being aluminum and all.
ropeup79
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Air bags are great for improving loaded ride and stability but you are still limited by the axel weight rating.
44hunter45
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Is that a stock bumper?
noharleyyet
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Yes, the AT4X comes with an AEV front bumper, approach skid plate, and differential plate...the optional Bison package includes the AEV rear and a bunch of other skid plates. Mine does not have the Bison pkg.
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for the limited information i'm going to say ford 7.3 gas. After GM & Ford came out with their 6.6 & 7.3 gas I really don't think there is a need for a diesel until you hit the dually market, certainly not with anything you're going to legally tow behind a 3/4 ton truck.
I had a 2020 gmc put 50K on it, it was fine, seats weren't the most comfortable. Transmission line took out transmission in january of 2022 best they could do at the time was rebuild it so I traded it in since dealer rebuilding didn't give me great confidence and my trade in value was maybe 5K less than i paid for it.
Ordered a 2022 ford xlt with the 7.3 and 4.3 rear axle, absolutely loved the truck, 10spd transmission was great, power was great, seats were a lot more comfortable about 70K on that truck before trading it in
bought a 2024 ford lariat, off the lot so i didn't get to pick my options this one has the 3.73 axle and does ok, better than the gmc which didn't have great transmission tuning so the shift points were bad but not nearly as nice power wise as the 22. negligible mpg difference between the 3 trucks.
GMC has since gone to a 10spd transmission so for the right deal and more comfortable seats than came in the base model I would try a GM again.
I had a 2020 gmc put 50K on it, it was fine, seats weren't the most comfortable. Transmission line took out transmission in january of 2022 best they could do at the time was rebuild it so I traded it in since dealer rebuilding didn't give me great confidence and my trade in value was maybe 5K less than i paid for it.
Ordered a 2022 ford xlt with the 7.3 and 4.3 rear axle, absolutely loved the truck, 10spd transmission was great, power was great, seats were a lot more comfortable about 70K on that truck before trading it in
bought a 2024 ford lariat, off the lot so i didn't get to pick my options this one has the 3.73 axle and does ok, better than the gmc which didn't have great transmission tuning so the shift points were bad but not nearly as nice power wise as the 22. negligible mpg difference between the 3 trucks.
GMC has since gone to a 10spd transmission so for the right deal and more comfortable seats than came in the base model I would try a GM again.
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Bumping this thread. I have 175k on my 2nd gen Tundra and am entertaining getting something newer and potentially a 3/4 ton. Might be pulling an 18 foot equipment trailer with a 6,000 lb piece of equipment on it for some volunteer projects, so towing 8-9k lbs a few trips year plus any hunting where I'm pulling my 6x10 enclosed aluminum trailer.
Things I've been considering:
Diesel - I don't think my needs require diesel, probably 25% of total miles at most will be towing. Diesel would be nicer sure, but generally the increased upfront cost, the more expensive fuel, the more expensive maintenance, and more potential problems all remove diesel options from the equation.
2500 Gasser -
To me the Ford 7.3 and the Ram 6.4 Hemi are the only options available. 7.3 is really enticing, but expensive, has it's own set of issues (tranny and lifter issues), it's a big truck that will just barely fit in my garage, and it sounds like it's a pretty rough riding truck, even with the tremor package.
The 6.4 hemi is a proven engine, the ZF 8 speed transmission is one of the best, it runs a little higher RPMs than the 7.3 when loaded, but rides better, is a bit of shorter wheel base, has better offroad packages available, and the hemi tick (which was a substantial lifter issue) has seemingly been remedied by Ram as those issues have dramatically reduced from several years ago. Both Ram and Ford have a pretty good power train warranty behind each of these trucks and performance by most metrics is pretty similar as well. So it comes down to price and better fitting my needs. Ram is getting the ever so slight edge for me here.
1500 - If I'm staying in a half ton, the gen 3 Tundra is the only option for me. It's one of the best 1500s suited for towing with the twin turbo and the way they have the 10 speed configured. I have some bias for toyota. Yeah they're spinning main bearings on about 1% of their production, but in my experience Toyota has always taken care of me if there's a problem. I've had really positive experiences working with Toyota and with my local Toyota dealership. Plus, I think they've got the problem identified and a new fix is supposedly being announced this spring. So, I would expect 2027's to be completely remedied (potentially). I would be comfortable buying a 2025+ Tundra and knowing if I blow a main bearing, I'll get a new engine with the fix. Still a PIA to deal with, so I'm still debating the 2500 options.
Things I've been considering:
Diesel - I don't think my needs require diesel, probably 25% of total miles at most will be towing. Diesel would be nicer sure, but generally the increased upfront cost, the more expensive fuel, the more expensive maintenance, and more potential problems all remove diesel options from the equation.
2500 Gasser -
To me the Ford 7.3 and the Ram 6.4 Hemi are the only options available. 7.3 is really enticing, but expensive, has it's own set of issues (tranny and lifter issues), it's a big truck that will just barely fit in my garage, and it sounds like it's a pretty rough riding truck, even with the tremor package.
The 6.4 hemi is a proven engine, the ZF 8 speed transmission is one of the best, it runs a little higher RPMs than the 7.3 when loaded, but rides better, is a bit of shorter wheel base, has better offroad packages available, and the hemi tick (which was a substantial lifter issue) has seemingly been remedied by Ram as those issues have dramatically reduced from several years ago. Both Ram and Ford have a pretty good power train warranty behind each of these trucks and performance by most metrics is pretty similar as well. So it comes down to price and better fitting my needs. Ram is getting the ever so slight edge for me here.
1500 - If I'm staying in a half ton, the gen 3 Tundra is the only option for me. It's one of the best 1500s suited for towing with the twin turbo and the way they have the 10 speed configured. I have some bias for toyota. Yeah they're spinning main bearings on about 1% of their production, but in my experience Toyota has always taken care of me if there's a problem. I've had really positive experiences working with Toyota and with my local Toyota dealership. Plus, I think they've got the problem identified and a new fix is supposedly being announced this spring. So, I would expect 2027's to be completely remedied (potentially). I would be comfortable buying a 2025+ Tundra and knowing if I blow a main bearing, I'll get a new engine with the fix. Still a PIA to deal with, so I'm still debating the 2500 options.
1/2 tons generally get a lot better mpg and ride better. I agree don't buy diesel unless you really need one. I'd go 1/2 ton and have a slightly less capable tow vehicle for the few times you tow.
On another forum, people pointed out the Toyota engine issues were fixed in 2024 and 2025 and later should be ok. That being said, I wouldn't personally buy new. It's too much depreciation.
