The Rinella Effect

[chardin9255]

I don't watch Rogan all that much, but when I have, it seems his primary sin is being inquisitive. He won't settle for sound bites. Doesn't fit easily into left or right boxes, which is anathema to some.

As far as bowhunting goes, yes, like many rich people, he goes on guided hunts. He shoots his bow every day, though, and unlike Rinella and most of the other bowhunting "stars" I'll bet he has far fewer "we'll find it in the morning" events in comparison. That's what sickens me about most of those types of shows.

I agree. I think Rogan puts the work in and has the money to learn from guides.

 

[3006Sprng]

I definitely like rinella content better than private land “big buck” videos.

 

[Forkyfinder]

When Greenland becomes part of the US, will rinella "have a buddy" who owns a fjord there?

Asking for a friend.

@Treeshark keep me updated on NR fees and how unfair they are in greenland

 

[Irrelevant]

I definitely like rinella content better than private land “big buck” videos.

Isn't that the same thing anymore?

 

[RemingtonRules]

I am seeing recycled Fresh Tracks videos on YouTube. Assume tags are so limited they are doing reruns. Hit that like and subscribe button.

 

[Nameless Range]

In 2012, there were over 6,000 licensed trappers in Montana. Soon afterward, Steven Rinella started releasing trapping content with an episode about trapping beaver. 10 years later the effect took hold, and there were 3,100 licensed trappers in Montana.

There's no point to be made there other than more than one thing is at play and perhaps folks oughta prioritize those "things".

No one is perfect, and the hunting so many of us live for is dealing with pressures all over the place, but on net I think Rinella represents our collective obsession decently. The foundation of our fix is season structures and opportunity allocation and little else. I've come to think of the rest as just the fish folks are frying.





The boys and I watched this one the other day and really enjoyed it. If you want to see a Montana episode.

 

[Deleted member 53219]

I wish Shed God was here to give us his opinion on Steve Rinella. I’m guessing it would rhyme with ‘cheese hay’.

 

[Irrelevant]

I wish Shed God was here to give us his opinion on Steve Rinella. I’m guessing it would rhyme with ‘cheese hay’.

I bet it would conclude with a rambling thought on Mt mule deer

 

[atlas]

I wish Shed God was here to give us his opinion on Steve Rinella. I’m guessing it would rhyme with ‘cheese hay’.

I'm pissed he's gone. I got a lot of joy out of reading what he had to say

 

[3006Sprng]

Isn't that the same thing anymore?

I’m not super versed on the stigma around Rinella, what’s the hate on him for?

 

[Irrelevant]

I’m not super versed on the stigma around Rinella, what’s the hate on him for?

1. spot burning
2. tag burning (as in advertising/promoting/discussing a hard to draw tag and making it significantly harder to draw).
3. pimping wildlife to get rich and famous
4. transitioning from public land hunts to private land harvests
5. Having an incredibly douche podcast.
6. Hunting in Texas

Now as others have pointed out, there's also a lot to like about the guy. In fact the one time I got to shoot the shit with him he was pretty cool. But I'm a much MUCH bigger fan of his older brother Matt.

Hunt Quietly

www.huntquietly.org

 

[Hem]

I’m not super versed on the stigma around Rinella, what’s the hate on him for?

For starters, blowing up hunt areas.
Actually, that's plenty.

 

[3006Sprng]

1. spot burning
2. tag burning (as in advertising/promoting/discussing a hard to draw tag and making it significantly harder to draw).
3. pimping wildlife to get rich and famous
4. transitioning from public land hunts to private land harvests
5. Having an incredibly douche podcast.
6. Hunting in Texas

Now as others have pointed out, there's also a lot to like about the guy. In fact the one time I got to shoot the shit with him he was pretty cool. But I'm a much MUCH bigger fan of his older brother Matt.

Hunt Quietly

www.huntquietly.org

I was aware of the polar opposite views of Matt and Steve. I see good and bad from both guys. I agree, I don’t like promotion of spots that can get blown up or abused by folks who dont put in any time, effort, or respect to that landscape scouting and hunting it. And yeah eating up tags.

It’s hard to argue against Steve’s views of “strength in numbers” to keep our rights and privileges as hunters protected from greasy politicians catering to their platforms agenda.

I guess I’m fairly neutral on this one, I was just surprised to see the numbers of anti rinella folks. I also don’t reside or hunt the areas he films in, so, I can’t speak for the people effected by the publicity of those areas.

 

[Elktrack]

It’s hard to argue against Steve’s views of “strength in numbers” to keep our rights and privileges as hunters protected from greasy politicians catering to their platforms agenda.

The “strength in numbers “ issue is definitely real. This is one thing I agree with Rinella (Steve) on. I also hate it. In my perfect world we would just be this silent group that didn’t attract any attention and we could all just hunt the way we always have and never need to worry about new people crowding in on us. Unfortunately, without strength in numbers and expanding our presence we are doomed to be swept aside as antiquated relics that really don’t fit into the picture when it comes to use of the resources. In order to have a seat at the table it takes numbers.

Our own @Big Fin gets it. A big reason why he does all of the things he does is for this reason. I’m thankful that these guys are stepping up to the plate and making the impact on our behalf.

Unfortunately one of the byproducts of this “recruitment “ is that things don’t stay the same. I get it, encouraging people to apply for tags, talking about areas, etc. puts more focus on them and increases the pressure.

It’s one of those damned if you do damned if you don’t things. Rinella may not be my favorite and I do think that he could be more discreet about things but overall the impact he’s had on the way hunting is viewed is a good thing and has garnered us more support.

I’m probably going to get hammered for saying it but there it is.

 

[wannabee]

The “strength in numbers “ issue is definitely real. This is one thing I agree with Rinella (Steve) on. I also hate it. In my perfect world we would just be this silent group that didn’t attract any attention and we could all just hunt the way we always have and never need to worry about new people crowding in on us. Unfortunately, without strength in numbers and expanding our presence we are doomed to be swept aside as antiquated relics that really don’t fit into the picture when it comes to use of the resources. In order to have a seat at the table it takes numbers.

Our own @Big Fin gets it. A big reason why he does all of the things he does is for this reason. I’m thankful that these guys are stepping up to the plate and making the impact on our behalf.

Unfortunately one of the byproducts of this “recruitment “ is that things don’t stay the same. I get it, encouraging people to apply for tags, talking about areas, etc. puts more focus on them and increases the pressure.

It’s one of those damned if you do damned if you don’t things. Rinella may not be my favorite and I do think that he could be more discreet about things but overall the impact he’s had on the way hunting is viewed is a good thing and has garnered us more support.

I’m probably going to get hammered for saying it but there it is.

I think this is well said. I think the West was going to blow up with numbers at some point. At least it was done by someone who actually is a positive figure for hunting and trapping. I think based on license numbers we are not where we were in the 80s but I think with more money flowing people are going more and more places to hunt. If mountain lions were on the ballot in Colorado then how long until other states start targeting specific things and the slippery slope clicks in.

I read almost exclusively north American history. So when I see people like his brother upset about how many people are hunting I just think of how the natives felt when the western expansion happened.

I also think that if certain priorities were shifted in certain states and access was greatly increased it could alleviate a lot of these issues. Although, I do get upset when people are dropping multiple bulls for content.

 

[3006Sprng]

I think this is well said. I think the West was going to blow up with numbers at some point. At least it was done by someone who actually is a positive figure for hunting and trapping. I think based on license numbers we are not where we were in the 80s but I think with more money flowing people are going more and more places to hunt. If mountain lions were on the ballot in Colorado then how long until other states start targeting specific things and the slippery slope clicks in.

I read almost exclusively north American history. So when I see people like his brother upset about how many people are hunting I just think of how the natives felt when the western expansion happened.

I also think that if certain priorities were shifted in certain states and access was greatly increased it could alleviate a lot of these issues. Although, I do get upset when people are dropping multiple bulls for content.

Isn’t this forum ran by a guy who drops bulls for content? Correct me if I’m wrong.

 

[Deleted member 53219]

I was aware of the polar opposite views of Matt and Steve. I see good and bad from both guys. I agree, I don’t like promotion of spots that can get blown up or abused by folks who dont put in any time, effort, or respect to that landscape scouting and hunting it. And yeah eating up tags.

It’s hard to argue against Steve’s views of “strength in numbers” to keep our rights and privileges as hunters protected from greasy politicians catering to their platforms agenda.

I guess I’m fairly neutral on this one, I was just surprised to see the numbers of anti rinella folks. I also don’t reside or hunt the areas he films in, so, I can’t speak for the people effected by the publicity of those areas.

“Strength in numbers” conveniently pads all these guy’s pockets

 

[3006Sprng]

“Strength in numbers” conveniently pads all these guy’s pockets

Your not wrong, it also keeps the firearms, optics, and hunting industry alive.

 

[Wild Bill]

Your not wrong, it also keeps the firearms, optics, and hunting industry alive.

The firearms and optics industry relies more on recreational shooters than on dedicated hunters, although there is some overlap between the two.

 

[Deleted member 13457]

The “strength in numbers “ issue is definitely real. This is one thing I agree with Rinella (Steve) on. I also hate it. In my perfect world we would just be this silent group that didn’t attract any attention and we could all just hunt the way we always have and never need to worry about new people crowding in on us. Unfortunately, without strength in numbers and expanding our presence we are doomed to be swept aside as antiquated relics that really don’t fit into the picture when it comes to use of the resources. In order to have a seat at the table it takes numbers.

Our own @Big Fin gets it. A big reason why he does all of the things he does is for this reason. I’m thankful that these guys are stepping up to the plate and making the impact on our behalf.

Unfortunately one of the byproducts of this “recruitment “ is that things don’t stay the same. I get it, encouraging people to apply for tags, talking about areas, etc. puts more focus on them and increases the pressure.

It’s one of those damned if you do damned if you don’t things. Rinella may not be my favorite and I do think that he could be more discreet about things but overall the impact he’s had on the way hunting is viewed is a good thing and has garnered us more support.

I’m probably going to get hammered for saying it but there it is.

I couldn’t disagree more. You could “recruit” 10x more hunters than we have currently and we’ll still be outnumbered. These guys know this.what they really care about is 10x more “hunters” buy 10x more stuff.

The “strength in numbers” disclaimer is just to get you to look away while he reaches for your wallet.