I have been working on a load for my 405 Winchester. I found that 1 shooter was using Varget MIN 55min and max 61 gr and by chance I had a little left over so I gave it a try. What a good surprise I had with improved fts 58 grains got me 2270 fts. IMR 4895 and 4064 at 56 grains got me 2060 to 2090 fts with more felt recoil. The group at 100 yards was 4 inches which with my 74 year old eyes and open sights is ok.