Stacking Bones
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wonder what the XR150L would be like?
Dual Sport Dirtbike
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Scott85
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I tried the dual sport with a TW200 it was fun but it wasn’t practical for me. I’ve upgraded to a side by side.
300stw
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heavy pig, the kawa 140 much better,
elkduds
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Let's talk used motos. I prefer 4 strokes for trail and woods-type riding, broader torque curve, less frequent shifting. Lighter is better. lower seat height is easier to get on and off with pack on. Reliability is essential, it's a long way from the elk woods to the power sports shop. This was my solution:
OG '87 Yammy TT 230. 200# because no battery, no electric start. I made it street legal w enduro kit, licensed it in CO. The frame and engine are common to TTR, XT, TW, BW. As basic and bombproof as they get. Seat height a few inches lower than CRF, Kaw, Suz, etc, just like modern TW and XT. These old TTs had actual offroad suspension, not like XT and TW. Parts cheap and totally available. Limitations: carbureted, fuel injection is better at various altitudes, esp. high alt. Geared low, top speed on highway with offroad gearing was about 50 mph, running hard in 6th gear. Very hard to find old bikes like this in good shape, I got lucky.
So what are your priorities? Mostly trails/hunting with a little street use, like mine above? More time on pavement means heavier bikes with bigger engines. Crazy to go without fuel injection now in places with huge differences in elevation. Add that and battery/elec start, now weight is up around #240+. Engine size for streetability above 250 cc, 300.better. Brands in order of reliability: Honda, Yam, Suz and Kaw, after that unsure but Chinese bikes are less reliable IMO. If I was made of $ I'd shop the Kaw KLX 300 or Yam WR250F. Or a dedicated offroad ebike with saddlebag capability and big batteries for cold-weather range. E bikes don't care what the altitude is, mountain cold temps cut battery life in half.
OG '87 Yammy TT 230. 200# because no battery, no electric start. I made it street legal w enduro kit, licensed it in CO. The frame and engine are common to TTR, XT, TW, BW. As basic and bombproof as they get. Seat height a few inches lower than CRF, Kaw, Suz, etc, just like modern TW and XT. These old TTs had actual offroad suspension, not like XT and TW. Parts cheap and totally available. Limitations: carbureted, fuel injection is better at various altitudes, esp. high alt. Geared low, top speed on highway with offroad gearing was about 50 mph, running hard in 6th gear. Very hard to find old bikes like this in good shape, I got lucky.
So what are your priorities? Mostly trails/hunting with a little street use, like mine above? More time on pavement means heavier bikes with bigger engines. Crazy to go without fuel injection now in places with huge differences in elevation. Add that and battery/elec start, now weight is up around #240+. Engine size for streetability above 250 cc, 300.better. Brands in order of reliability: Honda, Yam, Suz and Kaw, after that unsure but Chinese bikes are less reliable IMO. If I was made of $ I'd shop the Kaw KLX 300 or Yam WR250F. Or a dedicated offroad ebike with saddlebag capability and big batteries for cold-weather range. E bikes don't care what the altitude is, mountain cold temps cut battery life in half.
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Elkmagnet
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You can make a really good argument for e dirtbikes at this point.
A surron ultra bee would likely do everything I need from a dirtbike without any noise or smell.
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The Ultra Bee adheres to the SURRON's design philosophy of balance is perfection. The frame is made of forged aluminum aloytailored to the Ultra Bee's dedicated power system.
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And ripping all over town being a nuisance!You can make a really good argument for e dirtbikes at this point.
A surron ultra bee would likely do everything I need from a dirtbike without any noise or smell.
Ultra Bee | Surron USA
The Ultra Bee adheres to the SURRON's design philosophy of balance is perfection. The frame is made of forged aluminum aloytailored to the Ultra Bee's dedicated power system.
I’d love to try out some of these e bikes.
