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    Take Back Your Elk

    Here ya go. Straight from NMDGFs 2021 EPLUS landowner list 40 acres, 3 elk permit authorizations. It’s in GMU 15. The Gila. Unit wide permits. 40 acres of private land given 3 permits valid to hunt the entire approx million acres of the 77% public land GMU. A mature bull, a cow, and an ES...
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    Take Back Your Elk

    I’ve never seen anyone say a 40 acre tract got 15 tags. But I’ve seen 40 acres get 3 tags before. However, in the secondary management zone private land tags are unlimited. A 15 acre property could issue 200 tags if it wanted to.
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    Take Back Your Elk

    Perhaps you are correct about the acreage? I went back and forth with the guy at NMDGF about the figure several times and he never corrected it. You are wrong that “I know it” and am running with it. I am very careful to not cook numbers to support my opinions. I know it would be discovered...
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    Take Back Your Elk

    What you miss in your argument is that a resident landowners etc have no special or enhanced beneficiary status beyond every other New Mexican. As soon as the state gives them the permit to keep, sell, barter they are no longer within their resident entitlement. By your argument NM could give...
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    Take Back Your Elk

    I think NM public trustees are vulnerable because of the degree and scale of privatization they have created. EPLUS is like a trustee for a simple private trust paying $10,000 an hour to an accountant. Accounting services are necessary and benefit the trust beneficiaries. But they can be had...
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    Take Back Your Elk

    I guarantee that NM Trustees will be sued over EPLUS within the next ten years. Unless they implement serious reform.
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    Take Back Your Elk

    There are many public trustees. For instance, The game commission as a whole and as individuals function as public trustees. A public trust suit against EPLUS would probably name the game commission because EPLUS is a game commission rule. Technically such a suit would probably be over the ElK...
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    Take Back Your Elk

    My figures on unit wide are straight from NMDGF. But the acres of unit wide doesn’t even matter because unit wide is not a balanced private/public partnership like most open gate in other states. The private privileges and benefits greatly exceed the public benefits. The reason is choosing unit...
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    Take Back Your Elk

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    Take Back Your Elk

    Right. The “New Mexicans can buy $20,000 landowner elk tags” argument is such a red herring. It belies willful ignorance to the reason western states have R/NR tag quotas. Pretty basic stuff.
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    AZ auction tags going away

    States could give their art collections to art dealers and buildings and land to realtors to auction off. Imagine the money that would be raised? But how public money is raised matters. AZ decided, properly in my opinion, it did not like the way money was being raised by and for its wildlife...
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    AZ auction tags going away

    I understand the consternation by you and others about the commission not presenting a plan to replace any funding that might be lost before voting to kill the auction tags. But I’m not concerned. I applaud the AZ game commission for making the right choice now and working on funding later. Some...
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    Take Back Your Elk

    Correct. I will add that the reason privatized tags are majority nonresident is demographic. If the barrier to tag acquisition is ability to pay a private fee their will be orders of magnitude more hunters in the necessary income bracket out of the 330 million nonresidents than out of the 2...
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    Take Back Your Elk

    What is wrong with you saying everyone is lying? 100% lying even. That’s not how people interact on the hunt talk forums.
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    Take Back Your Elk

    Just the same as everyone has every opportunity to buy a jet, vacation home in Hawaii, and a 200 ft yacht.
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    AZ auction tags going away

    Exactly. People buying tags to kill sheep for hundreds of thousands of dollars and the so called nonprofit orgs banking a share of that money and paying their execs $300k salaries are made out to be heros. Please. Write the check with no return except the public good and we will talk. WSF will...
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    AZ auction tags going away

    By your logic the states should just put all tags out to the highest bidder. Maybe eliminate nonresident quotas. Let nonresidents that can afford the steeper fees and travel expense have 50% or more of the tags. There would be tons money coming in. Part of the public trust is that wealth is not...
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    AZ auction tags going away

    AZ will figure it out. I live in NM where we have the largest transferable private landowner tag system and thus the largest nonresident tag share in the west. The privateers argue that wildlife management and funding would collapse if NM met its public trust obligations to its residents...
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    AZ auction tags going away

    Good for Arizona. AZ is such a leader in keeping wildlife and hunting public and resident.

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