I use a Mossberg 500 12 gauge use to shoot rem copper solids now use hornady ssts both shoot well. Hornady s we’re more readily available and cheape, have shot deer with both out to 150 yards they work well.
Dad gave me his Remington gamemaster model 141 in 35 rem that he bought from his brother for 30 dollars. killed my first buck with it in 1979 still have.
Bought a 2023 can am in February tried to offer 500 below msrp they came back with counter offer of different atv’s that were less expensive. Bit my tongue and bought the one I wanted at msrp price.