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YesJust curious, could a person theoretically hunt both the whitetail and the mule deer seasons if they held b tags for one species and an A tag for another? Or b tags for both?
Still it makes no sense for elk hunting, usually the first week of September it too hot to be killing an animal as big as an elk, never mind the last week of August.The removal of October from archery season is to make space for the Oct. mule deer season.
The addition of the first week of archery starting earlier is so that archers only lose one week of their season just like everyone else.
You’re getting rich, by comparison. I had to float my boat from home to Billings, burned $160 in diesel, $150 motel expense. Lunch was my big win, $0 out of pocket, and yes Art’s neighbors beef was excellent!!No, Ben Lamb’s shadow organization is accused of paying for this.
Full transparency on my financial windfall for this process.
Splitting a motel room three ways with Randy & Justin. $50 out of pocket.
Dinner at Dave’s Hot Chicken in Billings. 15.00 Highly recommend- 4/4 stars would eat there again. Get the chicken slider platter/ one hot/ one mild.
A tank of gas for Randy’s truck since I carpooled to Billings with him. $60 out of pocket.
Cost of groceries for lunch fixings and pasta salad. $25 out of pocket plus the Tupperware bowl that Randy still has because we couldn’t get his frozen lock on the topper to open.
I did get to eat Art’s beef since he supplied the hamburger for lunch burgers at our meeting. That’s probably worth about $50 since they were really good burgers.
Ben bought me dinner in Bozeman at Sidewinders on the tail end of one of his trips. That was @$21 for a great chicken fried steak.
Time in the presence of the illustrious personalities credited with participating in crafting this proposal- Priceless
Whatever that’s tallied up to be is how much I’ve made so far…
Speak for yourself. I’ve taken 8 elk first week of season and would love for it to open earlier. The Utah hunt I did last year opened in mid August and that first few days was crazy good.Still it makes no sense for elk hunting, usually the first week of September it too hot to be killing an animal as big as an elk, never mind the last week of August.
So it's easier to kill elk in August? I'm not arguing that, but weren't these proposals to help protect the resource, not kill off more of the resource?Speak for yourself. I’ve taken 8 elk first week of season and would love for it to open earlier. The Utah hunt I did last year opened in mid August and that first few days was crazy good.
Everybody will whine about some level of change where they are not getting everything they want and feel entitled to. Sad deal people refuse to look at the bigger picture.
Kill more elk quickly in less days= more unpressured mule deer ultimately sharing less habitat…So it's easier to kill elk in August? I'm not arguing that, but weren't these proposals to help protect the resource, not kill off more of the resource?
Still it makes no sense for elk hunting, usually the first week of September it too hot to be killing an animal as big as an elk, never mind the last week of August.
Then eventually it will be LE permits, pick your weapon, pick your district, pick your week, pay the wealthy out-of-state landowner for access to public wildlife, and mule deer Back to the Brink of extinction. Sadly our great grandchildren will have no concept of the great hunting opportunity we have been blessed to experience in Montana.If we want to preserve any kind of decent opportunity something must be done. This is What most of the haters(I don’t facebook) fail to understand.
If we make no attempt and leave status quo, we will wind up at LE permits in 6&7 within 2 yrs.
Not to highjack a good discussion, but to add that mule deer need quality habitat. As a prime example, fire suppression on summer range has had long term detrimental effects on mule deer production in forested habitats "For example, in 2003, the Bulldog fire in southeastern Utah burned more than 30,000 acres of crucial summer and transitional ranges. After the fire, mule deer fawn recruitment went from a 5-year average of 44 fawns per 100 does to an average of 80 fawns per 100 does."(source: western Mule Deer Working Group).
Habitat conversions from shrubs to grasses via grass flavored grazing systems and herbicides has further reduced forage favorable to mule deer. In addition, invasive species have displaced native forage species. Cheat grass is among the worst at present, and commonly prevents sagebrush reestablishment following fire.
And of course, continued human sprawl up through winter ranges and even transitional ranges displaces mule deer all over Montana. And we add more human disturbance to mule deer habitat that displaces and stresses mule deer, including ATVs, snowmobiles, more trails, antler hunting, etc.
So no matter what mule deer seasons we end up with, there is no going back to the good old days IMO.
Do you not recognize the Aug 15th through Feb 15th elk shoulder season length currently, with interspersed archery, youth, muzzle loader, weapons restricted area, moose, goat, sheep, bear, turkey hunting also?Was there any discussion on how landowners and Block participants would view a 92 day straight hunting season?
Still it makes no sense for elk hunting, usually the first week of September it too hot to be killing an animal as big as an elk, never mind the last week of August.
Most BMA's that I know of refuse to allow shoulder seasons. This takes rifle season from 10/1-11/25, so hunter participation, knocking on doors, evening phone calls, etc. would increase drastically.Do you not recognize the Aug 15th through Feb 15th elk shoulder season length currently, with interspersed archery, youth, muzzle loader, weapons restricted area, moose, goat, sheep, bear, turkey hunting also?
"92 day" hunting is not a change.
Your opinion only, of which I disagree. Of the obviously many varied points of opposition to the highly likely improvements for hunting and for wildlife from implementation of some thoughtfully vetted proposals, "drastically" increase of annoyance to landowners by requests for access seems dubious, even trivial ... IMHO.... so hunter participation, knocking on doors, evening phone calls, etc. would increase drastically.