Colorado Lion and Bobcat Ballot Initiative Update

[Oak]

I wonder as of the time this article was printed, how up to date was the data/numbers? I would have thought this would have had a huge head start…

The filing was through December 31.

 

[matechakeric]

this issue & divide between houndsmen, trappers, & hunters is a snapshot of the bigger reason why this bill will pass. There's way too much bickering and infighting among hunters instead of unity....and the parasites of the world know it and they will exploit it.

 

[WYelker]

this thread is a snapshot of the bigger reason why this bill will pass. There's way too much bickering and infighting among hunters instead of unity....and the parasites of the world know it and they will exploit it.

What fighting have you seen?

 

[matechakeric]

What fighting have you seen?

Mistyped this. I meant to say look at the rift between houndsmen, hunters, & trappers.

 

[COEngineer]

I personally did nothing to fight the wolf reintroduction initiative (wolves aren't bad, ballot box biology is) because I was so pessimistic about the chances of defeating it. It passed by <1%. With a little effort, we can beat the anti-hunting initiative. Put off that new rifle, scope, truck purchase and invest in your hunting heritage instead. Let's not be on here in nine months lamenting, "If only..."
savethehuntcolorado.com

 

[matechakeric]

Catsarenttrophies.org google it. Go to the website. Sign up to gather signatures. They will ship you a shirt, and the petitions. This costs them time and money… fight back anyway we can!!! Make them lose resources to do this. It requires little to no effort

If any lion hunters want to put my wife's cat up a tree with hounds and shoot it as a trophy, I won't tell her

 

[TOGIE]

I personally did nothing to fight the wolf reintroduction initiative (wolves aren't bad, ballot box biology is) because I was so pessimistic about the chances of defeating it. It passed by <1%. With a little effort, we can beat the anti-hunting initiative. Put off that new rifle, scope, truck purchase and invest in your hunting heritage instead. Let's not be on here in nine months lamenting, "If only..."
savethehuntcolorado.com

challenge to all - whatever you pay or anticipate to pay in resident tags this spring throw the same amount at CRWF. it's what i'm planning to do.

if that means you have to cut your tags in half because you can't afford it then cut your tags in half.

i think going forward this should be rule of thumb for hunters, be it access yes in wyoming, CRWF, RMEF, TRCP, whatever.

the recent rogan podcast with cam and steve caught a lot of hate on this forum, but i finally listened to it and they spent a lot of time talking about the lion proposition rearing it's head in colorado and cam and steve both spent time name dropping dan gates and CRWF multiple times and the importance of what they're doing on this. rogans audience is enormous and i'm very thankful for that levelheaded conversation they had about this.

talk to your neighbors, talk to your family, talk to you fellow hunters. invite your neighbors over for venison barbacoa and show them what hunting is all about.

 

[bayoublaster7527]

challenge to all - whatever you pay or anticipate to pay in resident tags this spring throw the same amount at CRWF. it's what i'm planning to do.

if that means you have to cut your tags in half because you can't afford it then cut your tags in half.

i think going forward this should be rule of thumb for hunters, be it access yes in wyoming, CRWF, RMEF, TRCP, whatever.

the recent rogan podcast with cam and steve caught a lot of hate on this forum, but i finally listened to it and they spent a lot of time talking about the lion proposition rearing it's head in colorado and cam and steve both spent time name dropping dan gates and CRWF multiple times and the importance of what they're doing on this. rogans audience is enormous and i'm very thankful for that levelheaded conversation they had about this.

talk to your neighbors, talk to your family, talk to you fellow hunters. invite your neighbors over for venison barbacoa and show them what hunting is all about.

This is spot on. I don’t have many vices, I don’t gamble or play golf, only drink occasionally, no drugs, etc. But I do spend on raffles in hopes that I might win some amazing hunt and it’s usually a pretty good cause. This year I am forgoing most of my raffle budget and sending that to CRWM. Much better investment in the future of hunting, even selfishly.

Coloradans for Responsible Wildlife Management

We focus on the public’s interests for maintaining a century-old track record of our natural resources, including wildlife, habitat, and farms and ranches.

savethehuntcolorado.com

 

[elkduds]

This is spot on. I don’t have many vices, I don’t gamble or play golf, only drink occasionally, no drugs, etc. But I do spend on raffles in hopes that I might win some amazing hunt and it’s usually a pretty good cause. This year I am forgoing most of my raffle budget and sending that to CRWM. Much better investment in the future of hunting, even selfishly.

Coloradans for Responsible Wildlife Management

We focus on the public’s interests for maintaining a century-old track record of our natural resources, including wildlife, habitat, and farms and ranches.

savethehuntcolorado.com

I'm an active, supportive CRWM member and hope you are too.

 

[Badlandcat]

They do the same crap here. The houndsman only care about lions, not deer.

 

[Dinkshooter]

Well...............................I went to the cats aren't trophies website.

Saw a picture of that pig Baskin, then read their cherry picked quotes from "Conservationist and Ethical Hunters" and that was immediately worth a $100 donation this morning to https://savethehuntcolorado.com/

 

[Dinkshooter]

I almost felt like signing up to collect signatures then turning in blank forms.

 

[wyoboypt]

The number of deer mountain lions kill each year in Colorado will shock you | OutThere Colorado

One of Colorado's deadliest predators, mountain lions spend a lot of their time stalking and killing prey. Based on a few different data points, here's a rough estimate of how

denvergazette.com

Yep deer have it rough. Which is why it’s even more important to kill females, especially in areas like Wyoming where the deer are already all but completely decimated.

 

[R.K.]

The number of deer mountain lions kill each year in Colorado will shock you | OutThere Colorado

One of Colorado's deadliest predators, mountain lions spend a lot of their time stalking and killing prey. Based on a few different data points, here's a rough estimate of how

denvergazette.com

Yep deer have it rough. Which is why it’s even more important to kill females, especially in areas like Wyoming where the deer are already all but completely decimated.

50% of the herd every year, just from cats? That immediately makes me suspicious, but I don't know enough to say it's inaccurate.

 

[wyoboypt]

50% of the herd every year, just from cats? That immediately makes me suspicious, but I don't know enough to say it's inaccurate.

Here’s a few more for ya,

MOUNTAIN LION DIET ON PRIVATE LANDS - BORDERLANDS RESEARCH INSTITUTE

bri.sulross.edu

Mountain Lions vs. Deer

The Interaction Between Mountain Lion and Deer Population - Krebs Creek

Deer are naturally a mountain lion’s biggest food source because the mountain lion takes down and kills the deer and then hides it so it can continue to eat on

krebscreek.com

 

[perma]

So meeting is over, I’d say it was a good look for sportsmen. Sportsmen outnumbered cat people 3 to 1 This meeting focused on the east slope lion management plan which is being updated after 20 years, cat ladies tried hammering the cpw employees on female cat mortality, and were taking notes, the cpw employees held their own and offered a lot of good information

Awesome stuff.

 

[Deleted member 52847]

Is this possible to view online? I wasn't able to attend via zoom.

 

[COEngineer]

They recorded it, but I believe they are doing an online only meeting here in a week or so

In-Person Meetings:

• Evergreen: Thursday, February 22nd, 6:00 - 7:30 pm
  • Evergreen Fire Station #2, 1802 Bergen Parkway, Evergreen, CO 80439
• Trinidad: Friday, February 23rd, 6:00 - 7:30 pm
  • Trinidad State College, Sullivan Center, 600 Prospect St., Trinidad, CO 81082
• Florence: Monday, February 26th, 6:00 - 7:30 pm
  • Pathfinder Park Event Center, 6655 State Hwy 115, Florence, CO 81226
• Golden: Monday, February 26th, 6:00 - 7:30 pm
  • Jefferson County Open Space, Ponderosa Room, 700 Jefferson County Parkway, Golden, CO 80401
• Livermore: Tuesday, February 27th, 6:00 - 7:30 pm
  • Livermore Community Hall, 2044 W CR 74E, Livermore, CO 80536
• Colorado Springs: Thursday, March 7th, 6:00 - 7:30 pm
  • Hillside Community Center, 925 S. Institute St., Colorado Springs, CO 80903

Virtual Meetings:

• Thursday, February 29th, 6:00 - 7:30 pm
  • Click this link to register
• Wednesday, March 6th, 6:00 - 7:30 pm
  • Click this link to register

 

[Deckerp]

If anyone is thinking to donate to CRWM to help get that messaging out and beat this ballot initiative GoHunt will donate $200 when you sign up for an insider membership and use code CRWM. Seems like a great option for anyone who isn’t already a gohunt insider.