Wyoming now after federal lands.

[Treeshark]

Sounds like they cant even manage the land they already control.

Agreed.

 

[BuzzH]

This does begin to answer some questions about how these lands would be classified, state public lands, rather than state trust land. Possibly solves that real head scratcher of how will people camp in Wyo after a transfer. Also begins to address how it will be paid for. Performative for sure but a more refined performance than prior ones.

Which is rather funny as in a meeting with Governor Gordon month or so ago, a RMEF representative asked the Governor how they would classify such lands if they were to acquire them. Gordon flat said, "we don't know, we haven't thought that far ahead".

 

[WVmike]

Randy just put out one of the newer podcasts on the elk talk podcast about this very issue and explaining the terms of what these states are trying to do. Very informative. They could control everything down to where you can pitch a tent to just sighting in your firearm or recreational shooting.

 

[WyoCoalMiner]

Which is rather funny as in a meeting with Governor Gordon month or so ago, a RMEF representative asked the Governor how they would classify such lands if they were to acquire them. Gordon flat said, "we don't know, we haven't thought that far ahead".

Only took a month to think that one through? At a minimum this shows that advocates for a transfer are hearing the arguments against it and lining up answers to those arguments. All the more reason, IMO, to keep the arguments against it substantive not silly scare tactics like no more camping or campfires.

 

[hank4elk]

Again, I would hate for NM State Land Trust to get anymore lands.
Totally corrupt system that benefits a handful.
No camping,hiking,some hunting,thousands of acres blocked to public use.
Not Public Lands.

 

[SAJ-99]

Which is rather funny as in a meeting with Governor Gordon month or so ago, a RMEF representative asked the Governor how they would classify such lands if they were to acquire them. Gordon flat said, "we don't know, we haven't thought that far ahead".

Lots of "Ready, Fire, Aim" lately.

 

[BuzzH]

Only took a month to think that one through? At a minimum this shows that advocates for a transfer are hearing the arguments against it and lining up answers to those arguments. All the more reason, IMO, to keep the arguments against it substantive not silly scare tactics like no more camping or campfires.

100% agree. Arguing the simple economics of it are more than enough.

 

[BuzzH]

SJ02 is dead, officially.

 

[JAG]

Good news, but the fight isn't over. This is the sort of thing that seems like Trump would love to get behind. Very pro-development, pro all the things this sort of move would accomplish.

 

[NativeIndian]

Good news, but the fight isn't over. This is the sort of thing that seems like Trump would love to get behind. Very pro-development, pro all the things this sort of move would accomplish.

Doubt he'd go for this as much. Takes the oil and gas away from the federal guv.

 

[JAG]

I thought he was joking about the Gulf of America, now he wants to make Canada a state. Last night's news shows he's crazy-serious about that.

If that happens, would that make BC and Yukon Territories ..counties?!

Consider the silver lining here: would that generate vast accessibility for DIY, non-resident citizens to hunt Canada's public ground without a guide?

 

[NativeIndian]

I thought he was joking about the Gulf of America, now he wants to make Canada a state. Last night's news shows he's crazy-serious about that.

If that happens, would that make BC and Yukon Territories ..counties?!

Consider the silver lining here: would that generate vast accessibility for DIY, non-resident citizens to hunt Canada's public ground without a guide?

That would be awesome!

 

[hank4elk]

That would be awesome!

States Rights! Majority Rule.
So BC would have no firearms allowed.
The rest til you hit Ontario is a freeforall. Good burying grounds.

 

[JAG]

Trump taps former Wyoming Game and Fish chief Nesvik to lead U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service - WyoFile

If confirmed, one-time game warden would helm an agency that has roughly 8,000 employees and oversees a wildlife refuge system that covers nearly 860 million acres.

wyofile.com

Curious about how this could affect Federal Land transfer in the future. Like, how does Nesvik view it? @BuzzH ?

 

[Trial153]

Opens the door and gives sportsmen/conservationists a peek at who they are...or who they take direction from. Useful come voting time. And...as we are seeing nationally...crazy views and Uber wealthy influence can lead to really bad decisions...

Won’t matter to most “sportsman” They will keep voting Blindly for the big R

 

[JAG]

From the scuttlebutt I've seen elsewhere, Nesvik favors letting the states manage Grizzlies since they continue to thrive and don't need federal protection under the Endangered Species Act.

Most sportsmen do vote for the big R, but more of them can write and influence their elected leaders to make careful note of the impact of what a federal land transfer to the states would entail. I'm sure they'd rather hear from R voters on this topic versus D.

 

[Trial153]

Don’t worry this idea has place in the current administration, these guys will be finding willing ears shorty.

 

[KMO385]

Flood emails and phones of your elected officials. Get ahead of public land issues at least the next 18 months to 2 years. More then ever we need to make sure our elected officials answer to us and not a party or a billionaire

 

[BuzzH]

From the scuttlebutt I've seen elsewhere, Nesvik favors letting the states manage Grizzlies since they continue to thrive and don't need federal protection under the Endangered Species Act.

Most sportsmen do vote for the big R, but more of them can write and influence their elected leaders to make careful note of the impact of what a federal land transfer to the states would entail. I'm sure they'd rather hear from R voters on this topic versus D.

That's just not true, at all.

I bet less than 1 in 10K voters ever contact the person they vote for.

Also, just so you know, an elected official is supposed to represent all their constituents and not one time I've met face to face, talked on the phone, or written to a legislator have they ever asked for my political affiliation.

Unless you tell them, they have no idea if its an R, D, I or even if the person voted at all when they're contacted.

 

[Wildabeest]

That's just not true, at all.

I bet less than 1 in 10K voters ever contact the person they vote for.

Also, just so you know, an elected official is supposed to represent all their constituents and not one time I've met face to face, talked on the phone, or written to a legislator have they ever asked for my political affiliation.

Unless you tell them, they have no idea if its an R, D, I or even if the person voted at all when they're contacted.

They may not ask you, but if you have a scheduled meeting with them, their staffers generally look it up ahead of time and let them know. Voter registration is public info.