The first one I found last fall while I was hunting. I actually passed on a buck 2 falls ago with the same double eyeguards, except he was a main frame 5 point. When I first spotted the skull I thought it was him, so there is still hope thats he's still out there. The other one was my first find of 05. Its not half as big as I thought it was when i first spotted it. Some of the lighest antlers I've ever seen.