I got to go to the Sams club (walmart member deal or price club elsewhere) and i say this pack. I looked at it and saw it had a 3qt hydration pack built in and 3234ci in of space. It has really nice wide padded shoulder and hip straps and rides nice. All for 49$ !! If you have one of these stores check it out, its a really nice saddlecloth material and compartment break ups for equipment. Not a bad pack for the price i think.