It seemed really slow today, didn't get a to the add to cart screen per usual.
Bots and Colorado tag reissue list
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TheGreek
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Have I ever told you how much I hate this reissue system?
npaden
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I have got to start putting a reminder in my phone. I'm interested in some of the poor quality tags that are only a point or two but never seem to even be able to get those in my cart. And I forget all about it more times than I remember.
rmyoung1
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It is rough. I can’t ever seem to get anything with a single-digit number of tags available actually added to my cart. Just impossible.
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bayoublaster7527
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It’s the worst. Can’t change soon enough.
Bluffgruff
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Guaranteed that there will be complaints about the next system too. Only difference, then it will be the people auto-issued a tag that burns their points without enough warning to talk to their [whoever they need to clear it with] before they go.
huskyhunter
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The new reissue is going to be better when there are people on the waiting list for the tag. But my understanding is that if there are no eligible applicants on the waiting list for the tag, then it will go on a preview list on Tuesdays and will be released on Wednesdays at 11AM MT(just like now). It will be interesting how many people opt-in or opt-out for the auto reissues.
TheGreek
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It should be a random draw every week for the reissued tags. List comes out Tuesday at 11am with the tags available, application is open for a few hours and the draw occurs Wednesday morning. Yeah, it would be a pain from a tech side for CPW but it would save me from pressing the buy now button a million times at 11am for a tag I’m never gonna get.
Here is what I found copied below in case this link doesn't work. https://cpw.state.co.us/sites/default/files/dam/xpj1vx0mkp/websitefinaldrawchanges.pdf
Reissue Process a. Auto-reissue First Change: ● The reissue process is automated and is used to resell any license that is surrendered, not paid for by the payment deadline, or returned up to two weeks prior to the start of the season. Refund regulations still apply. ● Licenses are automatically reissued to the next eligible applicant in the draw order (by residency based on the next up report) that has opted-in to accept auto reissues. ● Applicants can opt-in to accept auto reissues by hunt code during the application process. They can also change their status to opt-out at any time, prior to being issued a license for that hunt code. ● When a license is auto-reissued, the system charges the customer for the license. If the payment for the license fails, the customer will get a notification and have 24 hours to pay for the license before moving on to the next customer. Second Change: ● If the hunt code was applied for as a first choice during the Primary Draw, then all preference points for that species also become void with the auto reissue. If the hunt code was applied for as a second, third, or fourth choice or during the Secondary Draw, then no points are used. b. Weekly reissues ● Any deer, elk, bear, pronghorn or turkey licenses that are returned two weeks or less prior to the start of the season, or returned at any time but do not have any eligible applicants to auto-reissue the license to, will be placed on the weekly reissue list. ■ Those licenses will be released at 11:00 am MT on Wednesdays weekly, with a preview list posted the Tuesday prior. ■ Licenses purchased during the weekly reissue release are treated as leftover licenses and do not require the use of preference points to purchase.
I’ve managed to get 0-1 point buck and bull licenses from the reissue this year. It’s not impossible, but it ain’t easy.
For the most part, anything you’re disappointed about not being able to snag from the list yet this year is not going to end up on the reissue list under the new system. There will always be somebody on the waiting list, based on this from above:
“If the hunt code was applied for as a first choice during the Primary Draw, then all preference points for that species also become void with the auto reissue. If the hunt code was applied for as a second, third, or fourth choice or during the Secondary Draw, then no points are used.”
For the most part, anything you’re disappointed about not being able to snag from the list yet this year is not going to end up on the reissue list under the new system. There will always be somebody on the waiting list, based on this from above:
“If the hunt code was applied for as a first choice during the Primary Draw, then all preference points for that species also become void with the auto reissue. If the hunt code was applied for as a second, third, or fourth choice or during the Secondary Draw, then no points are used.”
I was reading that right when I saw your post and thinking the same.
This is all pretty ridiculous (and yes, I've gotten tags off the list before so part of the problem). No returns or refunds outside of the exemptions that already exist. Bios could build in some % of breakage to their tag number recommendations to account for it.
Plus, with points moving to 'Bonus' points in 2028, the relative 'value' of a point goes down.
as @Oak has said to me on related topics:
“Stay Golden, Pony Boy”
Seriously - this is the way - but CPW/State gov technology is just not built for it. Not really even close. I equate it to my current client that has homegrown their business systems over 40 years and is now leaping from the Flintstones to Star Wars.
That model is not impossible, but you can see impossible from here.
No shit... You're telling me those of us brought up learning how Computers work and have warned again and again and again about, "Random isn't random." For a decade WERE RIGHT!
Oh... I'm shocked. Like finding clothes in the dryer are dry shocked.
Just make it right. The system is hackable. Figure out a fix.
elkduds
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It could fund itself: to enter this week's random drawing, $5 surcharge. Try again next week, $5 surcharge. Rinse, repeat. Colorado lottery, but for big game tags.I was reading that right when I saw your post and thinking the same.
This is all pretty ridiculous (and yes, I've gotten tags off the list before so part of the problem). No returns or refunds outside of the exemptions that already exist. Bios could build in some % of breakage to their tag number recommendations to account for it.
Plus, with points moving to 'Bonus' points in 2028, the relative 'value' of a point goes down.
as @Oak has said to me on related topics:
“Stay Golden, Pony Boy”
Seriously - this is the way - but CPW/State gov technology is just not built for it. Not really even close. I equate it to my current client that has homegrown their business systems over 40 years and is now leaping from the Flintstones to Star Wars.
That model is not impossible, but you can see impossible from here.
Mallardsx2
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Ya no thanks. They are already smoking the $hit out of everyone for $ and squandering it like drunken sailors on nonsense……
Bluffgruff
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$50 for nonresidents to enter the weekly drawing 
cgasner1
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I’d budget for it$50 for nonresidents to enter the weekly drawing
CollegeDad
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In 2016 I had an S73 sheep tag. I tore my calf mussel in my leg the first day of the hunt so my hunt was over. I got a trophy sheep tag to frame for my money and years of applying.
Oof that’s disappointing. I feel like that sort of thing should be excused in a way.
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