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  1. RobG

    Crazy Mountains Public Access & FS Management Lawsuit Filed Today

    Zac - I don't understand how you can say we are losing access. We don't get rid of 50% because we don't have it now. Access to Sweet Grass creek (and East Trunk) is legally at the pleasure of the landowners - the law is very clear on that - and the swap does nothing to change that. The...
  2. RobG

    Crazy Mountains Public Access & FS Management Lawsuit Filed Today

    I'm not trying to be confrontational, but how do you hold them to their mission statement and purpose? I agree about the no law part. Perhaps we are differing on the meaning of policy, but they had a memo that clearly spelled out what they were supposed to do when a trail was closed down by...
  3. RobG

    Crazy Mountains Public Access & FS Management Lawsuit Filed Today

    I'm not understanding your point. I have a 12" high pile of docs about the east crazies which contains all sorts of memos and policies about trail access, but if they choose not to abide by them there is nothing the public can do because there is no law that says the FS has to abide by their own...
  4. RobG

    Crazy Mountains Public Access & FS Management Lawsuit Filed Today

    I want to agree with you, but the take-home message of this defeated lawsuit is that the USFS is under no legal obligation to protect these trails. In fact, historically, they haven't protected these trails circling the Crazies. Just look at an old map and see that a trail circled the Crazies...
  5. RobG

    Crazy Mountains Public Access & FS Management Lawsuit Filed Today

    Because NEPA has nothing to do with "determining that the FS is not obligated to protect the public interest."
  6. RobG

    Crazy Mountains Public Access & FS Management Lawsuit Filed Today

    You created enemies of those landowners with your suit so I don't see the difference. Yes, you should have sued the landowners, not the Forest Service, if you were concerned with access and didn't want to negotiate with the landowners. The Forest Service had no legal obligation to prove these...
  7. RobG

    Crazy Mountains Public Access & FS Management Lawsuit Filed Today

    Elky - I don't know the context of the NEPA quote, but I'm not afraid to use it when appropriate to protect a resource. On the other hand, as I said in the EAJA thread, I'm against monkey-wrench suits and I see no relevance of NEPA to access in this suit, nor do I believe the trail is a threat...
  8. RobG

    Crazy Mountains Public Access & FS Management Lawsuit Filed Today

    Give me a break. It had no chance of winning. Zero, zippo. Every lawyer I talked to said as much and I came to that conclusion a year before when I looked at doing the same thing. Worse, BHA could have sued the landowners to prove any prescriptive easement existed if indeed they had the proof...
  9. RobG

    Fixing social security

    Myself and my electrical engineering friends are constantly getting offers to move to California. No way, not so much because of taxes, but because of crowds and housing costs.
  10. RobG

    Crazy Mountains Public Access & FS Management Lawsuit Filed Today

    Let's hope this ill-conceived lawsuit is done. https://missoulacurrent.com/appeal-crazy-mountains/
  11. RobG

    Observations

    It is kind of hard to see your elbow.
  12. RobG

    Fresh Tracks Weekly - Reform the EAJA for wildlife

    I'm not a fan of monkey-wrench lawsuits, but the agencies could follow the law so they don't have to pay out. I can't imagine the abuses if they weren't held accountable by someone.
  13. RobG

    Bad deal...

    Let the conspiracies begin.
  14. RobG

    East Crazy Mountain Land Exchange

    Some constructive input from a Montana Wildlife Federation alert (but I think the first one is a deal breaker - it has already been tried - and a better alternative is to scrap the Sweet Grass portion of the swap).
  15. RobG

    Crazy Mountains Public Access & FS Management Lawsuit Filed Today

    I know that... Thoughtful letter Shawn.
  16. RobG

    Fixing social security

    There was a wonderful interview of Simpson (Republican) and Bowles (Democrat) about their plan to get Social Security on track. They were appointed by Obama to get the deficit under control. Unfortunately, I can't find it, but they wanted to do things like raise the SS retirement age to 69, over...
  17. RobG

    East Crazy Mountain Land Exchange

    In your letter feel free to say that, with proper conservation easements, the area will be better protected than it is now.
  18. RobG

    Degree slopes for goats???

    42 degrees is a 90% slope, and a lot steeper than you would think. If you slipped, you probably wouldn't stop until you hit the bottom. This slope was about 80%, and about as steep as you can climb without using your hands.
  19. RobG

    East Crazy Mountain Land Exchange

    As most know, I won’t support the exchange without conservation easements. That said, I’d like to thank Sullivan for explaining he's trying to prevent "rewarding [landowners] who block legal access.” In other words, it’s just sour grapes, and I’ve been dealing with that since before there was...

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