Montana Mule Deer Raffle

[Forkyfinder]

Group draws up hunting regulation changes to spark conversation

One suggestion is that deer hunters would have to choose to either pursue whitetails or mule deer, and pick only one region of the state to hunt in.

billingsgazette.com

It’s behind a pay wall so here is the comment.

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So an INDIVIDUAL has an opinion, and he is speaking for a whole organization?

 

[DFS]

So an INDIVIDUAL has an opinion, and he is speaking for a whole organization?

I will wait for the stance of BHA but I know exactly what it’s going to be. The organization holds the golden ticket of mule deer and it goes for a fraction of the price of any other state. What a poorly run raffle, nothing was provided about the benefits hunters see from giving money to FWP. There was no excitement to what you could shoot. I finally had to post up some private land bucks to show the potential that Montana has. 702 two point for $20, what a good sale pitch. Enjoy your opportunity to pack a rifle.

 

[Forkyfinder]

I will wait for the stance of BHA but I know exactly what it’s going to be. The organization holds the golden ticket of mule deer and it goes for a fraction of the price of any other state. What a poorly run raffle, nothing was provided about the benefits hunters see from giving money to FWP. There was no excitement to what you could shoot. I finally had to post up some private land bucks to show the potential that Montana has. 702 two point for $20, what a good sale pitch. Enjoy your opportunity to pack a rifle.

"Montana’s statewide mule deer tag will be valid for the 2024 big game season during the archery, rifle, and muzzleloader seasons. According to BHA Regional Policy Coordinator Kevin Farron, all funds raised during the raffle will go to Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks (FWP), and those dollars will be earmarked for mule deer conservation work. "

Enlighten me of the big explanation you received from the auction dollars? Whats bha supposed to do - ask FWP to forumulate a plan with an undetermined amount of dollars?

I think youd be better served to spend 20 dollars on tissues, costco sells appropriate quantities for your purposes. Your whining, negative comments, and baseless critiques of orgs never put another deer on the mountain or tag in your pocket.

 

[Mountain Man]

@Elky Welky, who won the raffle?

 

[Visiting Hunter]

@Elky Welky, who won the raffle?

I did, sorry everyone

 

[DFS]

"Montana’s statewide mule deer tag will be valid for the 2024 big game season during the archery, rifle, and muzzleloader seasons. According to BHA Regional Policy Coordinator Kevin Farron, all funds raised during the raffle will go to Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks (FWP), and those dollars will be earmarked for mule deer conservation work. "

Enlighten me of the big explanation you received from the auction dollars? Whats bha supposed to do - ask FWP to forumulate a plan with an undetermined amount of dollars?

I think youd be better served to spend 20 dollars on tissues, costco sells appropriate quantities for your purposes. Your whining, negative comments, and baseless critiques of orgs never put another deer on the mountain or tag in your pocket.

I think we got off on the wrong foot when you pm’d me out of the blue and called me a government leach. I do appreciate the work that BHA does but if they don’t look out for the resource, all the opportunity is going to be pushed straight to private land. What Montana is doing isn’t sustainable for public land.

 

[Forkyfinder]

I think we got off on the wrong foot when you pm’d me out of the blue and called me a government leach. I do appreciate the work that BHA does but if they don’t look out for the resource, all the opportunity is going to be pushed straight to private land. What Montana is doing isn’t sustainable for public land.

Take your heat to fwp or more accurately the legislature- not to people who advocate.

 

[SwaggyD]

Take your heat to fwp or more accurately the legislature- not to people who advocate.

They advocate for opportunity at all costs. Do you think they will be in support of this proposal?

 

[Forkyfinder]

They advocate for opportunity at all costs. Do you think they will be in support of this proposal?

Who controls the wildlife, and who controls them?

 

[SwaggyD]

Who controls the wildlife, and who controls them?

My momma always told me, “don’t answer a question with a question.”

 

[Forkyfinder]

My momma always told me, “don’t answer a question with a question.”

No. They dont support it.

 

[SwaggyD]

No. They dont support it.

So why are you arguing with DFS? He supports mule deer on the landscape, as does the proposal. Is it personal from the PMs? BHA wants all the opportunity in the world so everyone can kill a rutting forky mule deer (look at your name change). Do you not want mule deer in the hills? Have you ever killed a mature muley?? Was it outside the rut?

 

[Forkyfinder]

So why are you arguing with DFS? He supports mule deer on the landscape, as does the proposal. Is it personal from the PMs? BHA wants all the opportunity in the world so everyone can kill a rutting forky mule deer (look at your name change). Do you not want mule deer in the hills? Have you ever killed a mature muley?? Was it outside the rut?

1. Because he does little besides cry about bha. 2. My name change is trolling you fools who think a 180" mule deer is small.
3. Yes.
4. Yes
5. No.

Can you show me on the doll where bha hurt you guys?

 

[SwaggyD]

1. Because he does little besides cry about bha. 2. My name change is trolling you fools who think a 180" mule deer is small.
3. Yes.
4. Yes
5. No.

Can you show me on the doll where bha hurt you guys?

Nobody that I remember said it’s small but they get much bigger.

 

[Forkyfinder]

They advocate for opportunity at all costs. Do you think they will be in support of this proposal?

Where do they "advovate for opportunity at all costs" ? Imagination doesnt count.

 

[Elky Welky]

Good morning everyone! Montana BHA is finalizing the announcement regarding this raffle, and I'll make sure to post here once that formal announcement comes out. I'm as eager as the rest of you to get the word out!

There also seems to be some continuing confusion about what BHA does and what BHA advocates for. To answer those questions, I would refer you to the mission statement on the webpage: Backcountry Hunters & Anglers seeks to ensure North America's outdoor heritage of hunting and fishing in a natural setting, through education and work on behalf of wild public lands, waters, and wildlife.

Regarding MT-BHA's stance on the hunt talk group's mule deer season proposal, MT-BHA's stance can already be found in the news update shared with members regarding the formation of the mule deer CAC back in January: "As long as fair chase, equitable opportunity remains, Montana BHA will continue to focus on the larger, underlying issues that we can agree on, but maybe don’t give enough attention to when we talk about mule deer management: the need to protect mule deer habitat and migration corridors, to proactively address growing concerns with disease, specifically CWD and EHD, and to continue to seek improvements to public access to both public and private lands. Improving these issues, collectively, will help ensure healthy herds and our hunting heritage, something all mule deer hunters will benefit from, and probably even agree on."

 

[bigsky2]

Good morning everyone! Montana BHA is finalizing the announcement regarding this raffle, and I'll make sure to post here once that formal announcement comes out. I'm as eager as the rest of you to get the word out!

There also seems to be some continuing confusion about what BHA does and what BHA advocates for. To answer those questions, I would refer you to the mission statement on the webpage: Backcountry Hunters & Anglers seeks to ensure North America's outdoor heritage of hunting and fishing in a natural setting, through education and work on behalf of wild public lands, waters, and wildlife.

Regarding MT-BHA's stance on the hunt talk group's mule deer season proposal, MT-BHA's stance can already be found in the news update shared with members regarding the formation of the mule deer CAC back in January: "As long as fair chase, equitable opportunity remains, Montana BHA will continue to focus on the larger, underlying issues that we can agree on, but maybe don’t give enough attention to when we talk about mule deer management: the need to protect mule deer habitat and migration corridors, to proactively address growing concerns with disease, specifically CWD and EHD, and to continue to seek improvements to public access to both public and private lands. Improving these issues, collectively, will help ensure healthy herds and our hunting heritage, something all mule deer hunters will benefit from, and probably even agree on."

Does this mean BHA would oppose any recommendations by the CAC that would shorten the season length or limit and/or eliminate rut hunting? I’m just curious what is considered equitable opportunity.

 

[Elky Welky]

Does this mean BHA would oppose any recommendations by the CAC that would shorten the season length or limit and/or eliminate rut hunting? I’m just curious what is considered equitable opportunity.

No, it does not mean that. Equitable opportunity simply means not favoring one user group over another. I.e.: policies favoring nonresident landowners over the general public, guided clients over non guided hunters, the wealthy over the average joe, etc.

 

[4ohSick]

No, it does not mean that. Equitable opportunity simply means not favoring one user group over another. I.e.: policies favoring nonresident landowners over the general public, guided clients over non guided hunters, the wealthy over the average joe, etc.

But taking MD hunting out of the rut favors the user group that wants to get out of the truck while hunting.